Messi tax fraud implications

Messi will cost close to his buy out which is 250 million euros. He is the greatest player ever, is a model professional, has no history of madness or injuries.

As for making the money back - whatever he'd cost, City would make it back in spades.

Next summer's going to be very interesting.
 
SWP's back said:
Madrid made the £80m back on Ronaldo within two seasons through new sponsorshir and shirt sales. Buying Messi would be unprecedented and City would pay whatever, and with a smile.

Purely on the back of signing Ronaldo? Fair play then. I would have thought that they were already high end of the shirt and sponsor deals so to get a further £20m on each per year based on one player is good going.

So in effect you could pay £200m over a 5 year deal for Messi and it would in effect be a free transfer
 
johnmc said:
Purely on the back of signing Ronaldo? Fair play then. I would have thought that they were already high end of the shirt and sponsor deals so to get a further £20m on each per year based on one player is good going.

So in effect you could pay £200m over a 5 year deal for Messi and it would in effect be a free transfer
That is what I read, I shall try and chase up the article.

And yes, a transfer so large would easily pay for itself, simply due to the player involved. Say we paid 3 times whatever Falcao just went for, there is no way, as Billy states that he would be worth 1/3 as much as Messi in terms of marketability.

edit: <a class="postlink" href="http://metro.co.uk/2010/04/15/cristiano-ronaldo-shirt-sales-have-already-paid-off-80m-fee-to-manchester-united-real-madrid-claim-242129/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://metro.co.uk/2010/04/15/cristiano ... im-242129/</a>
 
BillyShears said:
Messi will cost close to his buy out which is 250 million euros. He is the greatest player ever, is a model professional, has no history of madness or injuries.

As for making the money back - whatever he'd cost, City would make it back in spades.

Next summer's going to be very interesting.

On one hand you're praising the club's more holistic approach to transfers, steering clear of Cavani and Falcoa, then you suggest we pay 250 million euros for one player? That figure is OBSCENE.
 
SWP's back said:
That is what I read, I shall try and chase up the article.

And yes, a transfer so large would easily pay for itself, simply due to the player involved. Say we paid 3 times whatever Falcao just went for, there is no way, as Billy states that he would be worth 1/3 as much as Messi in terms of marketability.

edit: <a class="postlink" href="http://metro.co.uk/2010/04/15/cristiano-ronaldo-shirt-sales-have-already-paid-off-80m-fee-to-manchester-united-real-madrid-claim-242129/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://metro.co.uk/2010/04/15/cristiano ... im-242129/</a>

The article is slightly misleading - it says they have sold enough shirts at their RRP to pay for him. However that doesnt take into account the money adidas had already paid them and what Madrid actually get per shirt. 1.2m in shirt sales does not mean 1.2m x £60 into the club which is what it is effectively saying.
 
hgblue said:
BillyShears said:
Messi will cost close to his buy out which is 250 million euros. He is the greatest player ever, is a model professional, has no history of madness or injuries.

As for making the money back - whatever he'd cost, City would make it back in spades.

Next summer's going to be very interesting.

On one hand you're praising the club's more holistic approach to transfers, steering clear of Cavani and Falcoa, then you suggest we pay 250 million euros for one player? That figure is OBSCENE.
It's all relative. Paying €65m, or whatever it was, for Cavani, or even €55 - 60m for Falcao, would be obscene. (Or indeed £22m for Lescott, or £18m for RSC...).

Paying €250m for Messi, however, might be justifiable:

1) Messi is far better than any of those players - even the likes of Falcao, who is a superb player. He's quite possibly the best player ever to play the game, and certainly the best since 1990.

2) He's still relatively young, looks after himself and is injury free.

3) His commercial value to City would be huge. Obviously he is a fantastic player who would help us go further in the CL, which would bring greater revenues in itself (though we should be able to make substantial progress anyway). But it's in corporate sponsorships, media income, invitationals and brand building that he would have enormous value to City.

Despite our success to date and the investment made by Sheikh Mansour, we're still lagging behind the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool (not to mention United, Real and the likes) in our global presence. The South Africa tour contained clear visual evidence of that, by the way. No doubt that will improve over time and the club have clear strategies in place to help it do so which should bear fruit over the medium term. However, Messi would accelerate that process massively. Personality-wise he also fits with the club's image in a way that I don't think Ronaldo (the only other player who could have a comparable commercial impact) does.

Clearly it is down to Ferran and co to crunch the numbers but, at the right levels, purchasing Messi could be an investment in the true sense of that word (as in, likely to provide a positive financial return to the club over a sensible timescale).
 

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