I guess the unfair part comes in for those unable to get a season ticket or anyone buying matchday tickets for additional family or friends.Also our contract for the season ticket is with the club and NOT Metrolink.
The clubs info clearly states that fast track is part of the ticket.
If you want this option then it’s clearly available to purchase just like fast track at the airport.
Simple really.
What a great reply. I hadn't thought of it in any way near that depth. I certainly agree with most of the aforementioned posters views on the regular poor showing from Metrolink, especially on match days. However, the ire being shown to the fast track and those that have paid to access that privilege is unfounded. I suspect it's borne out of envy or possibly even jealousy, and furthermore there would be no benefit to those who who don't have access to it should it be removed.Indeed. I suspect, as this was some months ago, there was little progress on their complaint. Here's my understanding for @Gray. They're right to point out that introducing a fast-track lane for MMST holders appears to be a technical breach of clause (5) of the Manchester City matchday season ticket terms. That clause clearly states MMST holders have "no precedence over other passengers," which implies a general equality in the experience facilitated by the ticket.
However, as someone who doesn't hold an MMST, they're not a direct party to that specific contract. While the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 could allow them to enforce a term intended to benefit them, it's a very high bar. Practically speaking, if they were to sue for damages, proving quantifiable financial loss from a few minutes' delay would be incredibly difficult, likely resulting in only nominal damages, if any.
Alternatively, @Gray could apply for an injunction to force the closure of the fast track, but courts are generally reluctant to intervene in commercial operations for minor inconveniences. Moreover, the most likely first response from Manchester City and Transport for Greater Manchester would be to revise the terms and conditions to explicitly allow for a fast track, which they are legally entitled to do.
To me the main issue is really the queue management at the moment, especially when there’s a clash with Coop Live events. Sometimes the end of the queue is hard to locate and there are lots of instances of groups pushing in. Obviously the construction isn’t helping matters but hopefully they’ll introduce longer barriers and better signage eventually. Not everyone has access to the FastPass system and it wouldn’t make sense to open it up to matchday tickets buyers as there’d end up a silly queue there then, but there is an element of unfairness about it.What a great reply. I hadn't thought of it in any way near that depth. I certainly agree with most of the aforementioned posters views on the regular poor showing from Metrolink, especially on match days. However, the ire being shown to the fast track and those that have paid to access that privilege is unfounded. I suspect it's borne out of envy or possibly even jealousy, and furthermore there would be no benefit to those who who don't have access to it should it be removed.
That was my point exactly, they are not applying their own terms and conditions.Indeed. I suspect, as this was some months ago, there was little progress on their complaint. Here's my understanding for @Gray. They're right to point out that introducing a fast-track lane for MMST holders appears to be a technical breach of clause (5) of the Manchester City matchday season ticket terms. That clause clearly states MMST holders have "no precedence over other passengers," which implies a general equality in the experience facilitated by the ticket.
However, as someone who doesn't hold an MMST, they're not a direct party to that specific contract. While the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 could allow them to enforce a term intended to benefit them, it's a very high bar. Practically speaking, if they were to sue for damages, proving quantifiable financial loss from a few minutes' delay would be incredibly difficult, likely resulting in only nominal damages, if any.
Alternatively, @Gray could apply for an injunction to force the closure of the fast track, but courts are generally reluctant to intervene in commercial operations for minor inconveniences. Moreover, the most likely first response from Manchester City and Transport for Greater Manchester would be to revise the terms and conditions to explicitly allow for a fast track, which they are legally entitled to do.
So sue. They'll most likely change the T&C.That was my point exactly, they are not applying their own terms and conditions.
The problem is I have an annual pass for transport in Manchester and don’t want to pay for something I don’t need to.The below is from City and not from Metrolink.
My contract for this season ticket for the tram is with City as that is the company I pay direct to.
Below is my terms and conditions in order to gain fast track back to Piccadilly
If you want the same then buy a season card for it..
Trams are a fast and frequent way to get around on a match day and you can even break your journey on the way if you need to. Metrolink Matchday Season Ticket holders also get priority boarding via the Fast Track lane for city bound trams at the Etihad Campus stop after each match.
So sue. They'll most likely change the T&C.
You are right of cause, but I still maintain that Metrolink is shit.They’ll most likely tell him that for £10 a year ( including buses and trains) he’s probably getting decent value for money as it is.
At least football season doesn't start until 15th August, but a bit shit for anyone using the met to get to work etcPiccadilly gardens and station out of use from tomorrow until August 10.
You are right of cause, but I still maintain that Metrolink is shit.
Why are you so keen to get a Fastrack to a shit service?You are right of cause, but I still maintain that Metrolink is shit.
Or the Cricket when arriving by train into Piccadilly. T20 season is on now, India test in July.At least football season doesn't start until 15th August, but a bit shit for anyone using the met to get to work etc
At times it's dreadful, no doubt. Matchdays can be a nightmare. However it does offer excellent value for money most of the time, a couple of quid return into town is great value. Your problem with the fastrack is absurd though, it's so petty.You are right of cause, but I still maintain that Metrolink is shit.
I was up in Sunderland for a few days last week and while waiting at Seaburn for a Metro tram into Newcastle centre,I was astonished to see a Northern Rail train go through the station in the opposite direction, heading towards Sunderland.Why are you so keen to get a Fastrack to a shit service?
And I do agree, it's a shit service, developed on the cheap to placate "the north". We should have had light rail with underground sections in the centre, like the Tyne & Wear Metro, which also utilised existing heavy rail for the majority of its route.
Wait until they add a line out to Stockport!Towards the end of this season, the whole thing actually seemed to improve. Having spent years tromping down the canal quicker than folk were in the queue, it did seem to shift.
Just to add to the 347 trains an hour that run from town to Stockport...Wait until they add a line out to Stockport!
No one gives a fuck about cricket mate, take that to the empty seats thread.Or the Cricket when arriving by train into Piccadilly. T20 season is on now, India test in July.