Going to the Villa game last month, I done my usual change at Cornbrook. There was a tram immediately in front and one right behind mine. There was then a queue of 4 trams behind that waiting as well. 4 doubles and 3 singles were operating in the same direction on approx. 300m of track. The electricity load reason is therefore total bullshit. As you correctly state, it's bad planning or they can't be arsed.
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They definitely don't give a fuck. No staff stopping the free for all once tram doors open.Going to the Villa game last month, I done my usual change at Cornbrook. There was a tram immediately in front and one right behind mine. There was then a queue of 4 trams behind that waiting as well. 4 doubles and 3 singles were operating in the same direction on approx. 300m of track. The electricity load reason is therefore total bullshit. As you correctly state, it's bad planning or they can't be arsed.
Plenty checking tickets on days when no fucker on the trams.
Precisely. Metrolink get a pretty penny from the matchday crowd, and now concert go ers as well. The fans get a raw deal in return. Shite.They definitely don't give a fuck. No staff stopping the free for all once tram doors open.
Plenty checking tickets on days when no fucker on the trams.
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Left the ground after the lap of honour by the players, straight through fast track and then an alty double due in 8 mins. Im happy enough with that.
Plenty of confusion at fast track as usual with tourists/Springsteen fans - signage and directions are poor or non existent.
Plenty of confusion at fast track as usual with tourists/Springsteen fans - signage and directions are poor or non existent.
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Just those two stations or all the line to Ashton?Piccadilly gardens and station out of use from tomorrow until August 10.
Just those two stations or all the line to Ashton?
From Tuesday 3 June to end of service on Sunday 10 August, no tram services will run via Piccadilly Gardens.
- Trams on the Altrincham/Bury lines won’t serve Piccadilly Gardens or Piccadilly. Services will run between Altrincham and Bury via Market Street.
- All trams from Ashton and Etihad Campus will terminate at Piccadilly.
- Eccles services (via MediaCityUK) will run to Victoria via Market Street.
- MediaCityUK – Etihad Campus peak time services will NOT run during these works. There will be extra double trams on the Eccles – Victoria via MediaCityUK service.
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Ashton trams will terminate at Piccadilly train station.Just those two stations or all the line to Ashton?
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Do they have a depot east of Manchester or are they just going to be roaming the streets at night?Ashton trams will terminate at Piccadilly train station.
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Well you say that, but have you ever seen ticket checkers on those rammed trams pre and post match/concert?Precisely. Metrolink get a pretty penny from the matchday crowd, and now concert go ers as well. The fans get a raw deal in return. Shite.
As @mancityvstoke said, they are all over it on mid-morning weekdays when it’s all very civil and half-empty, but on a weekend? Do they even work weekends?
With the deal on those packed trams, I’m not sure customers should be paying for that level of “service”
bluwes
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They’ll set up a remote turn back I presume. They’ve done it in the past.or they’ll feed the trams through at slow speed past the work site out of service during the nightDo they have a depot east of Manchester or are they just going to be roaming the streets at night?
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What’s a “remote turn back” out of interest?They’ll set up a remote turn back I presume. They’ve done it in the past.or they’ll feed the trams through at slow speed past the work site out of service during the night
I read that they’ll do your second option every so often.
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Does this happen on the London Underground with lengths of track out of use for weeks?
And don’t get me started on that fast track rubbish, that is discriminating against other users.
Metrolink is not fit for purpose.
And don’t get me started on that fast track rubbish, that is discriminating against other users.
Metrolink is not fit for purpose.
Agree, not seen them on event days. Don't think you can get on a tram though at the Etihad post event without a ticket due to the set up. Obviously going is a different matter. The level of service in relation to the schedule, and also unforeseen occurrences like tram and equipment faults can be appalling at times no doubt. However, there's no excuse for big time cheap skates not paying to travel.Well you say that, but have you ever seen ticket checkers on those rammed trams pre and post match/concert?
As @mancityvstoke said, they are all over it on mid-morning weekdays when it’s all very civil and half-empty, but on a weekend? Do they even work weekends?
With the deal on those packed trams, I’m not sure customers should be paying for that level of “service”
bluwes
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They’ll basically park some of the up at Ashton overnight as and when required. Staff will service them thereWhat’s a “remote turn back” out of interest?
I read that they’ll do your second option every so often.
And don’t get me started on that fast track rubbish, that is discriminating against other users.
What's your problem? I pay for my Metro Season Ticket, and I get to use a fast track, which seems fair to me. You're welcome to do the same.
There is a separate pathway for those who can't use the stairs or require assistance with boarding.
What's your problem? I pay for my Metro Season Ticket, and I get to use a fast track, which seems fair to me. You're welcome to do the same.
There is a separate pathway for those who can't use the stairs or require assistance with boarding.
Couldn’t have worded it better.
Nail on head. Basically doesn't want to pay for what others are prepared to stump up for. This is from a few months back.What's your problem? I pay for my Metro Season Ticket, and I get to use a fast track, which seems fair to me. You're welcome to do the same.
There is a separate pathway for those who can't use the stairs or require assistance with boarding.
Read the small print:
So creating a fast track lane at the stadium actually flies in the face of their own conditions.
- (5). MMST holders have no precedence over other passengers and Keolis Amey Metrolink accepts no liability for loss, expense or inconvenience arising as a result of lack of accommodation for MST holders at any place or time.
Many thanks for alerting me to this, I shall be taking things further.
Nail on head. Basically doesn't want to pay for what others are prepared to stump up for. This is from a few months back.
Indeed. I suspect, as this was some months ago, there was little progress on their complaint. Here's my understanding for @Gray. They're right to point out that introducing a fast-track lane for MMST holders appears to be a technical breach of clause (5) of the Manchester City matchday season ticket terms. That clause clearly states MMST holders have "no precedence over other passengers," which implies a general equality in the experience facilitated by the ticket.
However, as someone who doesn't hold an MMST, they're not a direct party to that specific contract. While the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 could allow them to enforce a term intended to benefit them, it's a very high bar. Practically speaking, if they were to sue for damages, proving quantifiable financial loss from a few minutes' delay would be incredibly difficult, likely resulting in only nominal damages, if any.
Alternatively, @Gray could apply for an injunction to force the closure of the fast track, but courts are generally reluctant to intervene in commercial operations for minor inconveniences. Moreover, the most likely first response from Manchester City and Transport for Greater Manchester would be to revise the terms and conditions to explicitly allow for a fast track, which they are legally entitled to do.