Micah richards

[Ric]

wow what a fred ! :-) don t come on so much now as i ve started an embroidery course! :-)

remind me never to upset pudge! what i will say is that info comes and goes, complex issues arise in a transfer, i was told that hazard was deffo going to be a city player and also pelle signing was at risk seriously over money issues and it wasn t looking good at the same time all uk media outlets were saying he was a done deal-the new messiah. this proved correct as there were money issues that led to a stutter and it wasn t in any papers and hazard was wrong. as was isco. what i am tryting to say is cut the lad some slack if he gets info and posts he is doing in good faith as i do.

I agree, some of the hounding people get is a bit unedifying at times. There are of course some out and out WUMs, who are easy to spot (naming no names), but I tend to ignore them and take what they say with a large dose of salt.

I guess if you're claiming to have insider knowledge on here you are asking for trouble to some extent, but there is a bit of a pack mentality at times. Are people so desperate for transfer news that they get so incensed if a rumour doesn't materialise?!

I think some take the transfer forum far too seriously for their own good at times. As mentioned in the forum description, it's a place for rumours and speculation. If you can't handle some of the rumours not actually happening then maybe you should take a deep breath and step back. Is it really that important?!

We obviously don't want it to become even more of a farce on here, so by all means voice your scepticism about stuff posted but some of the goading is over the top. Equally, if anyone posting info wants to PM me their sources confidentially I'm happy to give the forum a steer on whether or not it should be treated seriously.

People should realise though that transfers are rarely black & white. I've been told stuff privately by very well connected sources things that haven't happened, as deals at that level are complicated matters. Thankfully I haven't shared them on here, otherwise I'd probably get hounded off my own site.

Rambling a bit now, but not everyone posting stuff on here is a 15 year old kid seeking attention. Some are, and should be easily spotted, some are just passing on info they hear. We're all adults and can make our own choices on who we believe. Rightly question the info, as some in this thread have, but no need to hound posters if they're posting in good faith.

 

[worsleyweb]

Can I just throw something into the pot which may be very wrong. However a lot of people are saying its not possible for an employee of a club to benefit personally from the sale of a player. However it is widely known that managers, Redknapp and Holloway for definate, have had clauses installed into players contracts that when they are sold they'd personally get a percentage of the profit. I remember the issue arising over Blackpool sale of Charlie Adam to Liverpool

Now a director is different from a manager who can justify this as development fee. But just shows clauses can be installed into contracts. Contract law has many quirks.

That I don`t doubt mate,but the problem that was originally made was 3rd Party as opposed to Sell On Fee.Didn`t we hear at one time that Fergie was supposed to be getting some form of payment for outgoing transfers ?
As has been suggested in this instance that the Chairman is not the highest share holder,hence the "discussions" on this matter.

The managers aren't shareholders either? It could be a "finder fee" or anything. Like I say, contract law allows all sorts of things to be added in. So if he was the largest shareholder at the time, brokered the deal, discovered Micah or any number of other things that could be inserted into a contract. It matters not that Oldham are losing money as someone suggested. Someone suggested this could be a matter for the law if he were to profit personally from this deal but that's wrong in my opinion.

Bloody hell - Micah Richards to contract law. It is quite entertaing. Night blues!!!

-- Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:56 am --

wow what a fred ! :-) don t come on so much now as i ve started an embroidery course! :-)

remind me never to upset pudge! what i will say is that info comes and goes, complex issues arise in a transfer, i was told that hazard was deffo going to be a city player and also pelle signing was at risk seriously over money issues and it wasn t looking good at the same time all uk media outlets were saying he was a done deal-the new messiah. this proved correct as there were money issues that led to a stutter and it wasn t in any papers and hazard was wrong. as was isco. what i am tryting to say is cut the lad some slack if he gets info and posts he is doing in good faith as i do.

I agree, some of the hounding people get is a bit unedifying at times. There are of course some out and out WUMs, who are easy to spot (naming no names), but I tend to ignore them and take what they say with a large dose of salt.

I guess if you're claiming to have insider knowledge on here you are asking for trouble to some extent, but there is a bit of a pack mentality at times. Are people so desperate for transfer news that they get so incensed if a rumour doesn't materialise?!

I think some take the transfer forum far too seriously for their own good at times. As mentioned in the forum description, it's a place for rumours and speculation. If you can't handle some of the rumours not actually happening then maybe you should take a deep breath and step back. Is it really that important?!

We obviously don't want it to become even more of a farce on here, so by all means voice your scepticism about stuff posted but some of the goading is over the top. Equally, if anyone posting info wants to PM me their sources confidentially I'm happy to give the forum a steer on whether or not it should be treated seriously.

People should realise though that transfers are rarely black & white. I've been told stuff privately by very well connected sources things that haven't happened, as deals at that level are complicated matters. Thankfully I haven't shared them on here, otherwise I'd probably get hounded off my own site.

Rambling a bit now, but not everyone posting stuff on here is a 15 year old kid seeking attention. Some are, and should be easily spotted, some are just passing on info they hear. We're all adults and can make our own choices on who we believe. Rightly question the info, as some in this thread have, but no need to hound posters if they're posting in good faith.

Do you think i am a wum ric?

 

[Ric]

Can I just throw something into the pot which may be very wrong. However a lot of people are saying its not possible for an employee of a club to benefit personally from the sale of a player. However it is widely known that managers, Redknapp and Holloway for definate, have had clauses installed into players contracts that when they are sold they'd personally get a percentage of the profit. I remember the issue arising over Blackpool sale of Charlie Adam to Liverpool

Now a director is different from a manager who can justify this as development fee. But just shows clauses can be installed into contracts. Contract law has many quirks.

I'm sure I've read about Wenger benefitting from players he has bought who are subsequently sold for a profit?

 

[oakiecokie]

Can I just throw something into the pot which may be very wrong. However a lot of people are saying its not possible for an employee of a club to benefit personally from the sale of a player. However it is widely known that managers, Redknapp and Holloway for definate, have had clauses installed into players contracts that when they are sold they'd personally get a percentage of the profit. I remember the issue arising over Blackpool sale of Charlie Adam to Liverpool

Now a director is different from a manager who can justify this as development fee. But just shows clauses can be installed into contracts. Contract law has many quirks.

That I don`t doubt mate,but the problem that was originally made was 3rd Party as opposed to Sell On Fee.Didn`t we hear at one time that Fergie was supposed to be getting some form of payment for outgoing transfers ?
As has been suggested in this instance that the Chairman is not the highest share holder,hence the "discussions" on this matter.

Can we leave this aspect of the thread please. It was not wherei was heading, I will simply maintain I think Micah is going and genuinely think very strongly he is. If I am correct I won't gloat and if he doesn't I will get banned. Quite simple.

All I did was respond to someone asking a q.ref managers receiving payments from transfers and merely pointed out as others have done that Oldhams Chairman is not the highest shareholder anyway.
Nothing too dramatic in that,is there ?

 

[FantasyIreland]

@Ric

I enjoy the transfer forum and the ITK posts,most are good fun,some very informative and exciting,i like to think I appreciate them in the spirit they are intended,however.........there is something that doesn't quite sit right with this OP.

He's a very strange egg.

 

[Ric]

That I don`t doubt mate,but the problem that was originally made was 3rd Party as opposed to Sell On Fee.Didn`t we hear at one time that Fergie was supposed to be getting some form of payment for outgoing transfers ?
As has been suggested in this instance that the Chairman is not the highest share holder,hence the "discussions" on this matter.

The managers aren't shareholders either? It could be a "finder fee" or anything. Like I say, contract law allows all sorts of things to be added in. So if he was the largest shareholder at the time, brokered the deal, discovered Micah or any number of other things that could be inserted into a contract. It matters not that Oldham are losing money as someone suggested. Someone suggested this could be a matter for the law if he were to profit personally from this deal but that's wrong in my opinion.

Bloody hell - Micah Richards to contract law. It is quite entertaing. Night blues!!!

-- Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:56 am --

wow what a fred ! :-) don t come on so much now as i ve started an embroidery course! :-)

remind me never to upset pudge! what i will say is that info comes and goes, complex issues arise in a transfer, i was told that hazard was deffo going to be a city player and also pelle signing was at risk seriously over money issues and it wasn t looking good at the same time all uk media outlets were saying he was a done deal-the new messiah. this proved correct as there were money issues that led to a stutter and it wasn t in any papers and hazard was wrong. as was isco. what i am tryting to say is cut the lad some slack if he gets info and posts he is doing in good faith as i do.

I agree, some of the hounding people get is a bit unedifying at times. There are of course some out and out WUMs, who are easy to spot (naming no names), but I tend to ignore them and take what they say with a large dose of salt.

I guess if you're claiming to have insider knowledge on here you are asking for trouble to some extent, but there is a bit of a pack mentality at times. Are people so desperate for transfer news that they get so incensed if a rumour doesn't materialise?!

I think some take the transfer forum far too seriously for their own good at times. As mentioned in the forum description, it's a place for rumours and speculation. If you can't handle some of the rumours not actually happening then maybe you should take a deep breath and step back. Is it really that important?!

We obviously don't want it to become even more of a farce on here, so by all means voice your scepticism about stuff posted but some of the goading is over the top. Equally, if anyone posting info wants to PM me their sources confidentially I'm happy to give the forum a steer on whether or not it should be treated seriously.

People should realise though that transfers are rarely black & white. I've been told stuff privately by very well connected sources things that haven't happened, as deals at that level are complicated matters. Thankfully I haven't shared them on here, otherwise I'd probably get hounded off my own site.

Rambling a bit now, but not everyone posting stuff on here is a 15 year old kid seeking attention. Some are, and should be easily spotted, some are just passing on info they hear. We're all adults and can make our own choices on who we believe. Rightly question the info, as some in this thread have, but no need to hound posters if they're posting in good faith.

Do you think i am a wum ric?

I don't know you personally, so couldn't say definitively either way. Obviously I have an opinion based on what I do know, but won't share that out of respect. By all means PM me if you like.

 

[worsleyweb]

That I don`t doubt mate,but the problem that was originally made was 3rd Party as opposed to Sell On Fee.Didn`t we hear at one time that Fergie was supposed to be getting some form of payment for outgoing transfers ?
As has been suggested in this instance that the Chairman is not the highest share holder,hence the "discussions" on this matter.

Can we leave this aspect of the thread please. It was not wherei was heading, I will simply maintain I think Micah is going and genuinely think very strongly he is. If I am correct I won't gloat and if he doesn't I will get banned. Quite simple.

All I did was respond to someone asking a q.ref managers receiving payments from transfers and merely pointed out as others have done that Oldhams Chairman is not the highest shareholder anyway.
Nothing too dramatic in that,is there ?

No

-- Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:05 am --

The managers aren't shareholders either? It could be a "finder fee" or anything. Like I say, contract law allows all sorts of things to be added in. So if he was the largest shareholder at the time, brokered the deal, discovered Micah or any number of other things that could be inserted into a contract. It matters not that Oldham are losing money as someone suggested. Someone suggested this could be a matter for the law if he were to profit personally from this deal but that's wrong in my opinion.

Bloody hell - Micah Richards to contract law. It is quite entertaing. Night blues!!!

-- Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:56 am --

I agree, some of the hounding people get is a bit unedifying at times. There are of course some out and out WUMs, who are easy to spot (naming no names), but I tend to ignore them and take what they say with a large dose of salt.

I guess if you're claiming to have insider knowledge on here you are asking for trouble to some extent, but there is a bit of a pack mentality at times. Are people so desperate for transfer news that they get so incensed if a rumour doesn't materialise?!

I think some take the transfer forum far too seriously for their own good at times. As mentioned in the forum description, it's a place for rumours and speculation. If you can't handle some of the rumours not actually happening then maybe you should take a deep breath and step back. Is it really that important?!

We obviously don't want it to become even more of a farce on here, so by all means voice your scepticism about stuff posted but some of the goading is over the top. Equally, if anyone posting info wants to PM me their sources confidentially I'm happy to give the forum a steer on whether or not it should be treated seriously.

People should realise though that transfers are rarely black & white. I've been told stuff privately by very well connected sources things that haven't happened, as deals at that level are complicated matters. Thankfully I haven't shared them on here, otherwise I'd probably get hounded off my own site.

Rambling a bit now, but not everyone posting stuff on here is a 15 year old kid seeking attention. Some are, and should be easily spotted, some are just passing on info they hear. We're all adults and can make our own choices on who we believe. Rightly question the info, as some in this thread have, but no need to hound posters if they're posting in good faith.

Do you think i am a wum ric?

I don't know you personally, so couldn't say definitively either way. Obviously I have an opinion based on what I do know, but won't share that out of respect. By all means PM me if you like.

I have done - cheers<br /><br />-- Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:05 am --<br /><br />

@Ric

I enjoy the transfer forum and the ITK posts,most are good fun,some very informative and exciting,i like to think I appreciate them in the spirit they are intended,however.........there is something that doesn't quite sit right with this OP.

He's a very strange egg.

I love you too

 

[oakiecokie]

wow what a fred ! :-) don t come on so much now as i ve started an embroidery course! :-)

remind me never to upset pudge! what i will say is that info comes and goes, complex issues arise in a transfer, i was told that hazard was deffo going to be a city player and also pelle signing was at risk seriously over money issues and it wasn t looking good at the same time all uk media outlets were saying he was a done deal-the new messiah. this proved correct as there were money issues that led to a stutter and it wasn t in any papers and hazard was wrong. as was isco. what i am tryting to say is cut the lad some slack if he gets info and posts he is doing in good faith as i do.

I agree, some of the hounding people get is a bit unedifying at times. There are of course some out and out WUMs, who are easy to spot (naming no names), but I tend to ignore them and take what they say with a large dose of salt.

I guess if you're claiming to have insider knowledge on here you are asking for trouble to some extent, but there is a bit of a pack mentality at times. Are people so desperate for transfer news that they get so incensed if a rumour doesn't materialise?!

I think some take the transfer forum far too seriously for their own good at times. As mentioned in the forum description, it's a place for rumours and speculation. If you can't handle some of the rumours not actually happening then maybe you should take a deep breath and step back. Is it really that important?!

We obviously don't want it to become even more of a farce on here, so by all means voice your scepticism about stuff posted but some of the goading is over the top. Equally, if anyone posting info wants to PM me their sources confidentially I'm happy to give the forum a steer on whether or not it should be treated seriously.

People should realise though that transfers are rarely black & white. I've been told stuff privately by very well connected sources things that haven't happened, as deals at that level are complicated matters. Thankfully I haven't shared them on here, otherwise I'd probably get hounded off my own site.

Rambling a bit now, but not everyone posting stuff on here is a 15 year old kid seeking attention. Some are, and should be easily spotted, some are just passing on info they hear. We're all adults and can make our own choices on who we believe. Rightly question the info, as some in this thread have, but no need to hound posters if they're posting in good faith.

I cant disagree with most of your points Ric,but there are times when people either start to tell a few porkies and once members see that,its like waving a red rag to a bull.
Therefore when people do question the validity of certain posts,due to certain back peddling,then you must question the rights and wrongs of "disproving" those people.
Most posters do it to disprove a "careless post" and we do act like a pack,but sometimes it should serve as a warning (not a Mod warning) that there will always be somebody to catch the wummers out.
I fell foul of this myself some 2 years ago,when coming in from a drunken night on the Guinness,decided to wum and boy what a fucking horrible experience that was the next day when I sobered up,coming onto Blue Moon and rightly getting the shit thrown at me from all angles.
It taught me a bloody hard lesson and I did make a public apology,but hell,never again to that extent.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

@Ric

I enjoy the transfer forum and the ITK posts,most are good fun,some very informative and exciting,i like to think I appreciate them in the spirit they are intended,however.........there is something that doesn't quite sit right with this OP.

He's a very strange egg.

Having followed this forum for going on 18 hours, I think the issue here isn't the foaming at the mouth over transfers, but that the OP appeared to be lying and got caught -- hoist on his own petard, as it were -- and certainly offered facts that weren't facts and were disproven conclusively by others.

It's one thing to commit these mistakes, admit meekly that you've overstepped your bounds and move on, and quite another to extend the thread for pages insisting you're in the right (and not very kindly either) when the preponderance of the evidence says otherwise.

The definition of ITK is always a judgement call anyway; that's really not why he was castigated. "I heard", "I think" and "I know" are all VERY different ways to start a sentence -- we should use them properly.

 

[FantasyIreland]

OP - I don't want your PM's.

Take them elsewhere.