Michael Jackson R.I.P [merged]

TheMightyQuinn said:
Bigga said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
No, I'm speculating that the man on the street could perhaps relate to the Lolita effect that surrounded Priscilla and Mandy yet saw Culkin and the other alleged victims as just young lads.

So... Are you saying because the 'Lolita Effect' is about young girls/ women, it's more... acceptable...?

It's a dangerous subject and whilst I'm not ready to shy away from it I am aware that it's an extremely taboo subject and anything I said could, and would, be taken out of context and as usual my Bluemoon philosophy reputation would be in tatters.

I do think however that had Lolita been about a young boy it would have been banned instantly, no one could relate to it perhaps even within themselves, and it'd now be remembered as a film/book about 'A paedo who touched up a young lad' and not a touching and disturbing look at the relationship between a beautiful and mature beyond her years young lady and an older man who was aware of the moral and legal ramifications of what he felt.

Try this one...

Is it ACCEPTABLE OR NOT??
 
Bluemoon115 said:
He offered money because he thought that even if he was found innocent the story would never leave him.

But he was wrong, wasn't he?

BOLLOCKS! So instead of being tried and cleared he thought paying someone off would convince people of his innocence?! If found in a similar situation would you do the same?
 
stony said:
If I was accused of that I would fight it tooth and nail. Unless of course I was guilty, then I would pay them to shut up......

But your life doesn't depend on the public image of you does it?

And even if you were found innocent, do you honestly believe that everyone you knew would fully believe you were innocent. DO you think you'd be able to take your kids to school without funny looks?

But your advantage would be that you could simply move away. He couldn't, and he knew that even if the case went to trial, folk would be sharpening their pitchforks.
 
stony said:
ElanJo said:
I don't think he deliberately put his child in danger either "oh hey, I think I'll put my child in danger". Give me a break. You've probably unknowingly put your kid/s in more danger.


The clue is in the word. Jackson dangled his kid from a window, do you think that is the behaviour of a rational sane person ?

He slept in the same bed as pre pubescent boys, Do you think that is acceptable ?

You're defending the indefensible, he was a grade A fucking fruitcake. Anyone who says he was a sensible rational human being is either deluded or an absolute fucking idiot.


He was different, but I think the way he was brought up made him a very immature adult. Doesn't make him a fruitcake.
 
stony said:
Bigga said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
No, I'm speculating that the man on the street could perhaps relate to the Lolita effect that surrounded Priscilla and Mandy yet saw Culkin and the other alleged victims as just young lads.

So... Are you saying because the 'Lolita Effect' is about young girls/ women, it's more... acceptable...?

Elvis married Priscilla. Jackson paid $20M hush money to Jordy.

Elvis loved Priscilla because of who she was. Jackson liked Jordy because of what he was(a young boy)

Right. A man touches a young person below age. One is not proved, the other is as he married her.

What's the difference and why is it more or less acceptable, either way??

Shocking that you can see a difference, really and I'm changing my views on some people...
 
Bluemoon115 said:
stony said:
If I was accused of that I would fight it tooth and nail. Unless of course I was guilty, then I would pay them to shut up......

But your life doesn't depend on the public image of you does it?

And even if you were found innocent, do you honestly believe that everyone you knew would fully believe you were innocent. DO you think you'd be able to take your kids to school without funny looks?

But your advantage would be that you could simply move away. He couldn't, and he knew that even if the case went to trial, folk would be sharpening their pitchforks.


And people will be convinced of your innocence when they find out you have paid hush money to a young boy ?
 
Bigga said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
Bigga said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
No, I'm speculating that the man on the street could perhaps relate to the Lolita effect that surrounded Priscilla and Mandy yet saw Culkin and the other alleged victims as just young lads.

So... Are you saying because the 'Lolita Effect' is about young girls/ women, it's more... acceptable...?

It's a dangerous subject and whilst I'm not ready to shy away from it I am aware that it's an extremely taboo subject and anything I said could, and would, be taken out of context and as usual my Bluemoon philosophy reputation would be in tatters.

I do think however that had Lolita been about a young boy it would have been banned instantly, no one could relate to it perhaps even within themselves, and it'd now be remembered as a film/book about 'A paedo who touched up a young lad' and not a touching and disturbing look at the relationship between a beautiful and mature beyond her years young lady and an older man who was aware of the moral and legal ramifications of what he felt.

Try this one...

Is it ACCEPTABLE OR NOT??

In my eyes, societies eyes or legally?

I, personally wouldn't knowingly or wantonly make an advance on anyone under 18 but that wasn't the original point, my reasons were theories and I stand by them, the man on the street would have fucked Mandy Smith in a minute had she said she was 18 but because she was 13/14 everyone, perhaps rightly, went berserk. Not many men would admit, even to themselves, if they wanted to sexually act with a 13yr old latino kid. That's all.
 

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