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Michael Jackson R.I.P [merged]
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Bluemoon115
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stony said:Bluemoon115 said:stony said:If I was accused of that I would fight it tooth and nail. Unless of course I was guilty, then I would pay them to shut up......
But your life doesn't depend on the public image of you does it?
And even if you were found innocent, do you honestly believe that everyone you knew would fully believe you were innocent. DO you think you'd be able to take your kids to school without funny looks?
But your advantage would be that you could simply move away. He couldn't, and he knew that even if the case went to trial, folk would be sharpening their pitchforks.
And people will be convinced of your innocence when they find out you have paid hush money to a young boy ?
Well obviously the idea was for the public to not find out, but purely to save face.
The jury had to come to a unanamous decision on that case, and do you honestly believe that any parents (and there were parents on the jury) would have let a peado off the hook?
ElanJo
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TheMightyQuinn said:Bigga said:TheMightyQuinn said:Bigga said:Because you know that even by your 'liberal thoughts' that you can't really distinguish a difference, can you?
No, it isn't that it's more the fact that Priscilla Presley and Mandy Smith (see I'm adding to your argument here) appeal more to me than Macauley Culkin.
Are you talking about them in a pre-legal way, TMQ??
No, I'm speculating that the man on the street could perhaps relate to the Lolita effect that surrounded Priscilla and Mandy yet saw Culkin and the other alleged victims as just young lads.
Im not sure if you are being sick or homophobic? LOL
Bigga
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TheMightyQuinn said:I, personally wouldn't knowingly or wantonly make an advance on anyone under 18 but that wasn't the original point, my reasons were theories and I stand by them, the man on the street would have fucked Mandy Smith in a minute had she said she was 18 but because she was 13/14 everyone, perhaps rightly, went berserk. Not many men would admit, even to themselves, if they wanted to sexually act with a 13yr old latino kid. That's all.
So, what happens when Elvis, having clapped his eyes on the girl and having gotten permission from her mother to see her, knows that she was 14 and STILL had sex with her??
What does that say about this particular 'legend'??
Bluemoon115
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dannybcity said:Bluemoon115 said:He offered money because he thought that even if he was found innocent the story would never leave him.
But he was wrong, wasn't he?
BOLLOCKS! So instead of being tried and cleared he thought paying someone off would convince people of his innocence?! If found in a similar situation would you do the same?
I've already said that a soon as the case went to trial, half of the world hated him. And this is before anyone found out that he tried to pay them off.
TheMightyQuinn
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Bigga said:TheMightyQuinn said:I, personally wouldn't knowingly or wantonly make an advance on anyone under 18 but that wasn't the original point, my reasons were theories and I stand by them, the man on the street would have fucked Mandy Smith in a minute had she said she was 18 but because she was 13/14 everyone, perhaps rightly, went berserk. Not many men would admit, even to themselves, if they wanted to sexually act with a 13yr old latino kid. That's all.
So, what happens when Elvis, having clapped his eyes on the girl and having gotten permission from her mother to see her, knows that she was 14 and STILL had sex with her??
What does that say about this particular 'legend'??
It says he knowingly had sex with an under age girl. Anything else would be speculation.
TheMightyQuinn
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ElanJo said:Im not sure if you are being sick or homophobic? LOL
Lol I'm just saying how people may see it!
I'm like Outkast 'i'm just being honest'
Bigga said:Right. A man touches a young person below age. One is not proved, the other is as he married her.
What's the difference and why is it more or less acceptable, either way??
Shocking that you can see a difference, really and I'm changing my views on some people...
Oh get over yourself you self righteous twat. If you can't see a difference then you really are stupid.
I'm not saying what Elvis did was right but are there any other stories of Elvis going with young girls ? Not that I'm aware, I deduce from this that although he did indeed fall for someone who was under age, it was Priscilla the person and not Priscilla the 14 year old girl that attracted him.
Compare that with Jackson, you will find that in his case it's young boy after young boy that he befriended. Once they are old enough he wasn't interested. Elvis married Priscilla.
Lets take your argument further. You seem to like going by the letter of the law. An 18 year old lad who sleeps with his 15 year old girlfriend would be just as guilty in your eyes if he had raped a baby.
Both are classed as rape and in your eyes both are the same.
Wake up.
I'm going to bed - before I do I must say that I personally don't buy this 'very immature adult' thing. I think it was something he developed in order to defend himself against accusations of child molestation.ElanJo said:stony said:ElanJo said:I don't think he deliberately put his child in danger either "oh hey, I think I'll put my child in danger". Give me a break. You've probably unknowingly put your kid/s in more danger.
The clue is in the word. Jackson dangled his kid from a window, do you think that is the behaviour of a rational sane person ?
He slept in the same bed as pre pubescent boys, Do you think that is acceptable ?
You're defending the indefensible, he was a grade A fucking fruitcake. Anyone who says he was a sensible rational human being is either deluded or an absolute fucking idiot.
He was different, but I think the way he was brought up made him a very immature adult. Doesn't make him a fruitcake.
He definetly was not bashful when performing his crotch grabbing routines across the worlds stages. He gave Madonna ideas.
Anyway he's dead now and it dosen't matter any more so what's the point of these arguments? People will always be divided on this issue.
Bluemoon115 said:stony said:Bluemoon115 said:stony said:If I was accused of that I would fight it tooth and nail. Unless of course I was guilty, then I would pay them to shut up......
But your life doesn't depend on the public image of you does it?
And even if you were found innocent, do you honestly believe that everyone you knew would fully believe you were innocent. DO you think you'd be able to take your kids to school without funny looks?
But your advantage would be that you could simply move away. He couldn't, and he knew that even if the case went to trial, folk would be sharpening their pitchforks.
And people will be convinced of your innocence when they find out you have paid hush money to a young boy ?
Well obviously the idea was for the public to not find out, but purely to save face.
The jury had to come to a unanamous decision on that case, and do you honestly believe that any parents (and there were parents on the jury) would have let a peado off the hook?
Jordys parents were happy to.