Michael le Vell (Kevin Webster)

[sir baconface]

Barrister used the glowing terms weak man, stupid man, drunk man to describe Le Vell. Only thing he missed out was United fan.

He wanted to go easy on him.

 

[mcmanus]

I'm pleased he's been found not guilty.

Firstly because it would have been terrible for an innocent man to be convicted of such a serious crime.

Secondly because I look forward to seeing him walking down Hale high street again with his amusing, slightly cocky 'I'm famous' swagger.

And thirdly I remember seeing him cycling the lanes of Cheshire alone practising for a charity bike ride.

You're pleased he's not guilty because you like seeing him walk down the road? Righto.

Easily pleased is Urmston.

So am I.

If Kelly Brook legged it down my street bouncing naked everyday I wouldn't give a fuck if she used weapons of mass destruction.

 

[peoffrey]

It strikes me as being deeply classless on his part. He should've got out of there immediately and away from the public eye. Instead a self-confessed alcoholic goes drinking.

While I agree with you that it's a bit classless, I can hardly blame the guy for having a bit of a chip on his shoulder after being dragged through a trial for something he hasn't done. Can you?

Can you imagine what state he's in now if he's still drinking since he became free to go? He's also frequently cheated on his Wife despite having Children with her. Why is he still down the Pub every night? There's having a chip on your shoulder and then there's having no self control.

Besides, he's been found not guilty and hasn't been found innocent. There's so much we don't know here.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

It strikes me as being deeply classless on his part. He should've got out of there immediately and away from the public eye. Instead a self-confessed alcoholic goes drinking.

While I agree with you that it's a bit classless, I can hardly blame the guy for having a bit of a chip on his shoulder after being dragged through a trial for something he hasn't done. Can you?

Can you imagine what state he's in now if he's still drinking since he became free to go? He's also frequently cheated on his Wife despite having Children with her. Why is he still down the Pub every night? There's having a chip on your shoulder and then there's having no self control.

Besides, he's been found not guilty and hasn't been found innocent. There's so much we don't know here.

Never trust a man with short arms and long sleeves.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

It strikes me as being deeply classless on his part. He should've got out of there immediately and away from the public eye. Instead a self-confessed alcoholic goes drinking.

A double whammy of self righteousness and gratuitous use of that appalling word "classless". The perfect storm for a shit post.

You must be a right laugh down that wine bar you frequent.

 

[squirtyflower]

It strikes me as being deeply classless on his part. He should've got out of there immediately and away from the public eye. Instead a self-confessed alcoholic goes drinking.

A double whammy of self righteousness and gratuitous use of that appalling word "classless". The perfect storm for a shit post.

You must be a right laugh down that wine bar you frequent.

He's so classy that innocent men are considered guilty

 

[johnmc]

It strikes me as being deeply classless on his part. He should've got out of there immediately and away from the public eye. Instead a self-confessed alcoholic goes drinking.

A double whammy of self righteousness and gratuitous use of that appalling word "classless". The perfect storm for a shit post.

You must be a right laugh down that wine bar you frequent.

He's so classy that innocent men are considered guilty

You have been banging this innocent drum throughout the thread. However he was found not guilty as it came to one persons word against another and they could not convict on that basis. Which really you cannot argue with on that basis. But a not guilty verdict does not always mean innocent which you are adamant it does.

 

[Tuearts right boot]

I think that before long everyone will know the name of the girl because she will go public. Her story is potentially pretty valuable, but it does have a limited shelf life.

I'm not sure any newspaper or magazine would be able to print anything she'd be interested in saying without been libellous.

Her experience of the Court process with an explicit lack of reference to the allegations would be a good two page spread in any Sunday tabloid.

Could be interesting. Maybe the girl in question is related in some way.

 

[Joycee Banercheck]

I find the whole subject of rape extremely hard to deal with as I lost a very good and decent friend because of a rape accusation. i've touched on it before in another thread but a lad I went to school with, gets dragged out of his workplace infront of everyone as his ex accused him of raping her when they had just split up.

Now, from the get go I believed him but many of our friend group didn't and turned on him, as did some members of his family. He got found guilty in court and sent down. He lasted 10 months in prison, his appeal wasn't successful, he took his life a week after as he couldn't face people thinking so badly of him, i've seen the letter he left for his mum and dad and his ex who made the allegations.

A year or so after his death the same girl who I also went to school with cried rape again, this girl wasn't the cleverest and on a drunken night out laughed about what had happened to my mate Sam and this other lad, explaining she made the whole thing up for attention, failing to realise she was chatting a copper up who was on a night out.

She is now in prison for perverting the course of justice, she got 15 months..

Not the same as a suspected pedophile but I will always be wary of knowing all facts before making a decision about anyones guilt.

That's fucking evil.

indeed it is. what a truly disturbing story.

bloody hell. What a shit, Can we know this girl's name? She needs a proper head caving.

 

[Davs 19]

I'm not sure any newspaper or magazine would be able to print anything she'd be interested in saying without been libellous.

Her experience of the Court process with an explicit lack of reference to the allegations would be a good two page spread in any Sunday tabloid.

Could be interesting. Maybe the girl in question is related in some way.

Careful...........you could cost Ric thousands..............

 

[andyhinch]

I'm not sure any newspaper or magazine would be able to print anything she'd be interested in saying without been libellous.

Her experience of the Court process with an explicit lack of reference to the allegations would be a good two page spread in any Sunday tabloid.

Could be interesting. Maybe the girl in question is related in some way.

Very unlikely

 

[urmston]

I'm pleased he's been found not guilty.

Firstly because it would have been terrible for an innocent man to be convicted of such a serious crime.

Secondly because I look forward to seeing him walking down Hale high street again with his amusing, slightly cocky 'I'm famous' swagger.

And thirdly I remember seeing him cycling the lanes of Cheshire alone practising for a charity bike ride.

You're pleased he's not guilty because you like seeing him walk down the road? Righto.

Easily pleased is Urmston.

Can't see what your problem is mate.

I'm pleased he's innocent which means a young girl was not the victim of a crime and an innocent man is not going to jail.

I like seeing the man out and about in Hale because of his amusingly cocky swagger.

And he is a cyclist.

What's your problem with him?

 

[ColinBell'snamesake]

Very unlikely

However, asking Danny for his opinion may! ! ! !

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

You're pleased he's not guilty because you like seeing him walk down the road? Righto.

Easily pleased is Urmston.

Can't see what your problem is mate.

I'm pleased he's innocent which means a young girl was not the victim of a crime and an innocent man is not going to jail.

I like seeing the man out and about in Hale because of his amusingly cocky swagger.

And he is a cyclist.

What's your problem with him?

His choice in taylor.

 

[mcmanus]

Easily pleased is Urmston.

Can't see what your problem is mate.

I'm pleased he's innocent which means a young girl was not the victim of a crime and an innocent man is not going to jail.

I like seeing the man out and about in Hale because of his amusingly cocky swagger.

And he is a cyclist.

What's your problem with him?

His choice in taylor.

Gareth or Bob?

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Can't see what your problem is mate.

I'm pleased he's innocent which means a young girl was not the victim of a crime and an innocent man is not going to jail.

I like seeing the man out and about in Hale because of his amusingly cocky swagger.

And he is a cyclist.

What's your problem with him?

His choice in taylor.

Gareth or Bob?

I'm sure both of them would've made a better job of his cuffs.

 

[stonie]

I'm not sure any newspaper or magazine would be able to print anything she'd be interested in saying without been libellous.

Her experience of the Court process with an explicit lack of reference to the allegations would be a good two page spread in any Sunday tabloid.

Could be interesting. Maybe the girl in question is related in some way.

An obvious assumption and wouldn't take Sherlock Holmes to work that out but anonymity means just that...

 

[Mr Ed (The Stables)]

Shocking damage to his life and reputation which, notwithstanding the verdict, can never be fully repaired.

From what I know of the girl's testimony, it lacked credibility. Having spoken to many victims of abuse, I know there is usually more corroborating detail in genuine accounts - time, context, environment etc. During trauma the mind fixes on small details.

As has been suggested previously, the verdict is not proof of innocence, rather that there wasn't sufficient evidence to convict beyond reasonable doubt. There will be many people who still believe that he did it. That's a blatant injustice of the system - the accused gets a a reputational sentence even if they're innocent.

I agree, it's high time with these high profile cases they should have some anonymity as well.

Two years of his life are gone, and I don't believe one second that Kevin Webster the character will still be in Coronation Street in five years time. He will have been written out imo probably with a meteorite landing on his head.

His career is over, he is tarnished by this even though he has been exonerated by his peers and found not guilty.

Also don't forget we don't have "Double Jeopardy" anymore, so with no Statute of Limitation in this Country, potentially if "new evidence" turned up he might have to go through the whole process again!

 

[Paul11/12]

Her experience of the Court process with an explicit lack of reference to the allegations would be a good two page spread in any Sunday tabloid.

Could be interesting. Maybe the girl in question is related in some way.

Very unlikely

Y unlikely? how else would there be any kind of evidence (made up or not) for a grown man to have access to a young girl time after time? I don't believe for 1 second he's guilty, but surely has to be a relative/close friends kid?

 

[Never Mind The Pollocks]

Could be interesting. Maybe the girl in question is related in some way.

Very unlikely

Y unlikely? how else would there be any kind of evidence (made up or not) for a grown man to have access to a young girl time after time? I don't believe for 1 second he's guilty, but surely has to be a relative/close friends kid?

STOP! Don't do it!