Middle East Conflict (merged)

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

"Kill the Jews, rape their daughters, free Palestine"

Calling out racist antisemites when they're being antisemitic isn't something to criticise, regardless of what you think of them personally.

I think they probably need to drop the killing and raping bit tbh.

 

[Metal Biker]

I think they probably need to drop the killing and raping bit tbh.

Sullies the message a tad, doesn't it.

 

[Vic]

I see your point, but all it really achieves is to frame the current source of conflict in the terms of 'play together nicely ', not a realistic recipe for peace or a solution as such.

You didn't see the point.

It says there was a place called Palestine albeit not a state, and its lack of realism is a source of the current conflict. It doesn't promise a Jewish state; the only state promised was to the Arabs as part of their joining the war against the Ottoman empire and we know what happened to that promise.

It was "made by an English foreigner who had no claim to Palestine, to a foreign Jew who had no right to it". (A quote from a Palestinian academic - I've not pinned down whether by "foreign Jew" he meant Rothschild or Chaim Weizmann - but as both were British citizens by then, "foreign" presumably means foreign to Palestine.)

As someone suggested above, resettling British Jews may have been part of the aim. The Board of Deputies at the time seems to have been rather split on whether Zionism was a good idea.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

You didn't see the point.

It says there was a place called Palestine albeit not a state, and its lack of realism is a source of the current conflict. It doesn't promise a Jewish state; the only state promised was to the Arabs as part of their joining the war against the Ottoman empire and we know what happened to that promise.

It was kept. Jordan was the outcome.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Human beings are real fucking pricks, aren't we?

 

[xgorton]

Human beings are real fucking pricks, aren't we?

Especially Zionist,Neocons and the other right wing nutjobs.

 

[oldius]

"Kill the Jews, rape their daughters, free Palestine"

Calling out racist antisemites when they're being antisemitic isn't something to criticise, regardless of what you think of them personally.

Check my second paragraph.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

It was kept. Jordan was the outcome.

Wasn't in keeping with the original mandate of Balfour though was it?

The British stretched the meaning of Palestine to include Transjordan (for their own strategic interests) but also relied on the original meaning to exclude Jewish settlers from moving to areas East of the Jordan river.

It’s basically the geopolitical version of Hollywood accouting.

When Churchill Severed Transjordan From Palestine

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

 

[mccity]

It's a bit sad how quick many are to turn to racism. More often that not you have it that whenever an Islamic country does something the Islamophobia pops up, and now that Israel is doing something the antisemitism pops up.

 

[Scottyboi]

Give it Rome til end of the season.