Middle East Conflict

[Metal Biker]

Do you think Israel will ever give the stolen land back to the Palestinians?

Under international UN, NATO and US pressure against a civil, rational and non-aggressive Palestinian Government, they'd have little sentiment or choice not to comply.

Now give your solution, stop dodging. You asked me, i'm asking you.

 

[blueinsa]

Do you think Israel will ever give the stolen land back to the Palestinians?

I’d wager after what Hamas has done, they won’t stop until the Palestinian people have no land at all.

Hamas cares nothing for its people, that’s clear by its actions that just bring death and suffering for the majority of them.

 

[BlueHammer85]

It is a desperately shit situation where there are no winners and only losers.

Oil companies can get the champagne on ice whenever there’s a war.

 

[The blue phantom]

Under international UN, NATO and US pressure against a civil, rational and non-aggressive Palestinian Government, they'd have little sentiment or choice not to comply.

Now give your solution, stop dodging. You asked me, i'm asking you.

Dodging what I've answered everything. If you honestly think the Israelis will give the stolen land back you're for the cookoos.

 

[The blue phantom]

I’d wager after what Hamas has done, they won’t stop until the Palestinian people have no land at all.

Hamas cares nothing for its people, that’s clear by its actions that just bring death and suffering for the majority of them.

I agree about Hams.

But Israel cares not one fuck about the Palestinians too. There's a post on here this morning which was one of the worst I've ever read regarding Palestinian people.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

whataboutism is a stupid word. If someone posts one side then it's not whataboutism to give the other side, it's balance.

Israel are not angels, but I don't remember the IDF parading a nude womens body around the streets spitting on the corpse and chating 'God is Good'.

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

Israel are not angels, but I don't remember the IDF parading a nude womens body around the streets spitting on the corpse and chating 'God is Good'.

If that their idea of God, then I hope I never meet him.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Hostages: Learning From Israel​

NORMAN FINKELSTEIN
7 OCT 2023


The crocodile tears have begun over Israeli hostages taken by Gaza militants. But Israel has held the 2.1 million people of Gaza, including one million children, hostage in one of the most densely populated areas on the planet for nearly 20 years. In fact, Israel was the only country in the world to have legalized hostage taking. Revered President of the Israeli High Court Aharon Barak held in 1997 that “a detention is legal if it is designed to promote State security, even if the danger to State Security does not emanate from the detainees themselves,” and that “detention ... for the purpose of release of ... captured and missing soldiers is a vital interest to the State.” (The decision wasn’t reversed until 2000.) If the past is any guide, Gaza’s leadership will swap the Israelis for some of the 4,500 Palestinians being held in Israeli prisons on alleged “security grounds.” Gaza is only playing by the book written by Israel.

“All the chorus of calumny, which the Party of Order never fail, in their orgies of blood, to raise against their victims, only proves that the bourgeois of our days considers himself the legitimate successor to the baron of old, who thought every weapon in his own hand fair against the plebeian, while in the hands of the plebeian a weapon of any kind constituted in itself a crime.”
Karl Marx, The Civil War in France

 

[kaz7]

I have zero sympathy for israel, i feel like them as i do the russians , the good people dying is the shame of it all

 

[Crooked_rain]

I’d wager after what Hamas has done, they won’t stop until the Palestinian people have no land at all.

What a lot of people don't understand is Iarael haven't just stolen all this land or occupied it. People somehow forget or don't realise a lot was sold by very rich Arab land owners. Its not as cut and dry as people are told.

I don't wanna get into too much politics, but the Western media don't really cover the Israel and Palestine issue with much truth/fairness.

Israel certainly are to blame too, but it's never been as one sided as the media here spins it. I was in Beersheba roughly 5 years ago to the day and Palestinians were firing rockets at where I was, unprovoked at the time. Hardly a word about it in the news here in the UK. If it was the other way around, it would have had a lot more coverage. There's a lot happens both ways that we don't know about unless you've been there. A lot of Palestinians are far more oppressed by Hamas and the people running their country right now.


Either way it's a sad situation all round, innocent people on both sides being killed, its not right.

I have family and friends in Israel, I've been in contact but none of them have been online since yesterday. Hopefully they're all OK.