Middle East Conflict

Funny how terrorist leaders are always somewhere else. Never on the front line while telling their troops to achieve immortal happiness by dying for the cause.
Don't remember seeing Bush and Blair leading the troops in Iraq, or Nixon and Johnson fighting the Vietcong, or Putin shelling the Ukrainians, or Asquith going over the top at the battle of the Somme, we could go on.
Why a different standard for the Hamas political leadership?
 
All these lunatics are empowered and emboldened by old wanker politicians/religious charlatans and extremist, hate-peddling media shitheads.
 
The Hasbara machine is in overdrive. They’re basically web scraping pro-Palestinian LinkedIn posts to doxx or contact their employers. You really can't be seen to be pro-Palestinian anything…

https://anti-israel-detector.vercel.app/
It's truly bonkers, I picked one at random, check out the last post here...
 
I am really at a loss as to the war aims of Israel, in order to defeat Hamas they are going to have to go in very heavy and be prepared for a long urban conflict, but Hamas is like Hydra it will just pop up again and again as long as the conditions are ripe for it, so they either have to empty Gaza of it's population, which the Americans have told them not to even think about, or occupy it, which is going to be no fun for them and it will further isolate Israel, there is also the risk of further escalation in the north and the West Bank, this might be the reason a ground offensive has not happened, because they don't have a clue what to do after it's finished and also if it kicks off in the north they don't have the resources or man power to fight a war on two fronts
After Hamas attacked Israel with such barbarity, I really believe they have put Israel in a lose, lose situation. Israel had to respond such was the brutality of the attack, but I can't help but think they are walking into a very well planned trap, not just in Gaza, and not just militarily but diplomatically as well.
 
If you was dealing with civilised people, yes but Hamas are not civilised people.

If you can tell me how Israel should start to negotiate with an organisation that has its stated aims of the destruction of the state of Israel and that all Jews are legitimate targets and so soon after one of the worlds biggest terrorist attacks then I’m all ears?

How do you even begin to talk to these people?
I think the bigger question is why did Israel facilitate promote, encourage, finance and nurture an organisation with the stated aims of the destruction of the state of Israel?
I think it's a question more of the Israeli public should be asking.
 
If you was dealing with civilised people, yes but Hamas are not civilised people.

If you can tell me how Israel should start to negotiate with an organisation that has its stated aims of the destruction of the state of Israel and that all Jews are legitimate targets and so soon after one of the worlds biggest terrorist attacks then I’m all ears?

How do you even begin to talk to these people?
Absolutely correct -there’s no negotiating with a Death Cult like Hamas (or their fellow travellers ISIS)
 
Can we please keep the discussion regarding the incident in Brussels in the thread below? This thread is busy enough as it is.

Thanks

 
It's truly bonkers, I picked one at random, check out the last post here...
I’d like to say I’m surprised, but sadly I’m not and just reaffirms how desperate they are to suppress support for the Palestinian’s.

There would be only one narrative we’d be getting if it wasn’t for independent journalists on the internet and social media. The tide is changing in peoples opinions and it’s unlike anything we’ve ever seen before.

Their lobbyists and army of hasbara trolls can spurn out all the bullshit they want, but the world is slowly waking up to see them for who and what they really are.
 

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