Middle East Conflict

I have nothing against the news article, infact I even said the other day I think Israel are just going to drive Palestinians out and annex the land and still pretend they are the victims.

So not sure what your little quip is about, I'd just rather not see people like that David Atherton on Blue Moon as I think he is a vile racist.
All a bit depressing. Like the Russia/Ukraine conflict we can 'pick a side' but ultimately the maths / numbers are stacked and there will be only one outcome :-(
 
What’s the inevitable outcome in Ukraine? And why (obvs!).
The west gradually turn their backs and the sheer scale of Russia v Ukraine will see Russia win. 'win' of course can be defined in many ways - my guess is probably pretty much as is in terms of territory with both sides claiming 'victory'. In fairness the Palestine/Israel outcome is likely to be more decisive if Israel press on. If not, what is left of Palestinian territory is likely to become a magnet for islamist insurgents/terrorists for decades to come.
 
The west gradually turn their backs and the sheer scale of Russia v Ukraine will see Russia win. 'win' of course can be defined in many ways - my guess is probably pretty much as is in terms of territory with both sides claiming 'victory'.
Can’t argue with the ‘victory’ bit.

If the Ukrainians will it, then fair enough. It’s got to be up to them. They’ve got far more skin in the game than anyone else.
 
Just heard on the radio that after the worst day of bombing in Ukraine to date around 30 civilians have been killed, in Gaza it is averaging 250 a day in an area 40x smaller than Northern Ireland. Bloody disgusting.

The West has rightfully stood by Ukraine today after the attacks from Russia, how can they not get a grip on Israel it's unforgivable really especially as it is all Western supplied.
 
Just heard on the radio that after the worst day of bombing in Ukraine to date around 30 civilians have been killed, in Gaza it is averaging 250 a day in an area 40x smaller than Northern Ireland. Bloody disgusting.

The West has rightfully stood by Ukraine today after the attacks from Russia, how can they not get a grip on Israel it's unforgivable really especially as it is all Western supplied.
Sort of answered your own question there mate re supply of weapons
 
So Russia and China puppet files a case.

The ANC since 1994 has overseen over half a million murders under its watch.

Genocide they say?
Sounds like they know what a genocide is from lived experience.

The world would be an odd place if any country that has committed crimes in the past cannot accuse others of criminality.
 
Sounds like they know what a genocide is from lived experience.

The world would be an odd place if any country that has committed crimes in the past cannot accuse others of criminality.

The ANC are overseeing one.

Its not the past, its a reality under their leadership.

Anyway, Russian and Chinese money is important to them so they will have been happy to oblige.
 
The ANC are overseeing one.

Its not the past, its a reality under their leadership.

Anyway, Russian and Chinese money is important to them so they will have been happy to oblige.
Both genocides probably need calling out then.

I’m overly fussy about condemning regimes that slaughter people.
 
I have nothing against the news article, infact I even said the other day I think Israel are just going to drive Palestinians out and annex the land and still pretend they are the victims.

So not sure what your little quip is about, I'd just rather not see people like that David Atherton on Blue Moon as I think he is a vile racist.
I take your point about Atherton, but that's just a distraction from Netanyahu's advocating ethnic cleansing.

Perhaps public opinion in every country might be "nudged" with two questions.

1. Do you support what Israel is doing to Gaza?
2. If you answered yes, how many Palestinian refugees can your country take?
 
Perhaps public opinion in every country might be "nudged" with two questions.

1. Do you support what Israel is doing to Gaza?
2. If you answered yes, how many Palestinian refugees can your country take?
Not sure there will be much nudging going on. If the answer to the first question is ‘no’, then I suspect the answer to the second is ‘none’.
 

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