Middle East Conflict

[SWP's back]

Save them from who?

Whom

 

[Paul1970]

I sympathize with the Arabs, but calmly speaking, if you cannot defeat the enemy on the battlefield, you will not be able to achieve what you want at the negotiation table. The security affairs of Arab countries have long relied on the help of the United States. The same goes for Europe. When tough battles occur, you don't have a strong army, you're not a player on the table. Who bombed the Nord stream oil pipeline? Germans can do nothing but bury their heads in the sand.
There are many debates on this forum, people are discussing which side to sympathize with. In democratic countries, people believe in the pressure of public opinion and believe that voters can rely on their votes to influence government decisions. On some unimportant domestic issues, this may indeed be the case. But when it comes to issues such as "war" and "big power confrontation", the people are no longer facing ordinary "media", but propaganda machines with specific intentions that serve the war. This propaganda machine is part of the national power, and ordinary people have no ability to compete with it.
Specifically, regarding the issues of Ukraine and the Middle East, European countries need independent military power, and the Arab world cannot rely on the United States anymore, as the United States clearly supports their opponents more.
The prospects for Palestine are bleak, and the ultimate possibility of this historical event is Israel's comprehensive victory. But at the same time, it will also greatly affect the power pattern of the future world.

They haven’t got an army because unlike other countries the west will not give them anything but continue to give Isreal who claim to also have nuclear weapons every bit of armour to destroy the Palestinians . A slaughter is happening and no one gives s fuck . Good post by the way .

 

[SWP's back]

Not posting direct links to the videos but The Guardian article goes some small way to describing how fucking awful the videos are.

 

[remember arthur mann]

Whom

Is that the place next to Moss Side?

 

[Blue Maverick]

Not posting direct links to the videos but The Guardian article goes some small way to describing how fucking awful the videos are.

Can you imagine if this happened to your family you wouldn’t give a flying fuck how you got revenge, it just gets me there are 8 billion people in this world and a tiny percentage fuck it up for everyone, most people just get want to live their lives, yet fucking pricks in power, money men and exstreamists all one name of an imaginary being or the pursuit of wealth and/or power, it’s a pity they all can’t be put on an island and kill each other and leave the rest of us alone.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

Not posting direct links to the videos but The Guardian article goes some small way to describing how fucking awful the videos are.

There was no chance the Israelis were going to do anything but put the foot down firmly on the neck this time.

 

[The blue phantom]

There was no chance the Israelis were going to do anything but put the foot down firmly on the neck this time.

To which 2000 Palestinian Children have been blown up in pieces or crushed to death.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

To which 2000 Palestinian Children have been blown up in pieces or crushed to death.

Yes war if awful. Did I say it was brilliant was Israel was doing or cheering on civilians caught in the crossfire?

My point was that considering the level of dapravity of those attacks the other week, there was no chance Israel was going to let it slide.

 

[SWP's back]

There was no chance the Israelis were going to do anything but put the foot down firmly on the neck this time.

But there’s very little, to zero evidence that they’re doing anything that will prevent similar from happening again in the future. At this point they’re simply bouncing rubble and killing thousands of innocent people every week.

No one can see what’s happening in Gaza and believe they’re surgical strikes aimed at taking out Hamas.

 

[robbieh]

The only genuine Arabs in Israel are the Bedouin, the Palestinians are descendants of the peoples who have lived in that area since the year dot,including Jews who were forced to convert to Islam, they are an Arabic people but not Arabs, like the rest of the Levant and the Sahel furthermore Palestinian culture is quite distinct

You know your history well and it's much needed on here.