Middle East Conflict

[Dax777]

Defence against terrorists

I really don't see what the soldier has done wrong here. A kid using a slingshot stones him and he attempts to arrest the kid as the kid resists vehemently. Then a bunch of the kid's defenders show up and stop him from arresting the kid.

He then gives up the attempted arrest because he recognizes that catastrophic violence would be necessary to execute the arrest.

I don't see anything the soldier did wrong and there certainly wasn't any "brutalizing" going on.

 

[Dax777]

First class coont,the soldier.

Why, for arresting a kid who probably stoned him?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

El Ghazi sacked by Mainz for a pro-Palestinian social media post. I’ve read the so-called offending piece and I don’t see it as supporting Hamas, more supporting innocent Palestinians

Mainz were formed by Eugene Salomon and have a rich Jewish heritage and community. It’s probably more complex than for most clubs dealing with his tweets.

I’m not condoning it, just adding a bit of context.

 

[Dax777]

El Ghazi sacked by Mainz for a pro-Palestinian social media post. I’ve read the so-called offending piece and I don’t see it as supporting Hamas, more supporting innocent Palestinians

What exactly did he say?

 

[The blue phantom]

Why, for arresting a kid who probably stoned him?

Fuckin lol. The policy is shoot with live rounds if stones are thrown by children. I'm fairly sure arresting kids isn't in the IDF's thoughts most of the time when a bullet can normally settle it.

 

[M18CTID]

What exactly did he say?

And he posted this after he was sacked:

 

[Username Required]

What exactly did he say?

German club Mainz terminates Anwar El Ghazi's contract over social media posts on Israel-Hamas war

German soccer club Mainz has terminated the contract of Dutch forward Anwar El Ghazi following his social media posts about the Israel-Hamas war.

apnews.com

Why Anwar El Ghazi was sacked over Israel-Gaza post

Anwar El Ghazi was suspended then his suspension was lifted — but that was only the start of the story

theathletic.com

 

[robbieh]

I really don't see what the soldier has done wrong here. A kid using a slingshot stones him and he attempts to arrest the kid as the kid resists vehemently. Then a bunch of the kid's defenders show up and stop him from arresting the kid.

He then gives up the attempted arrest because he recognizes that catastrophic violence would be necessary to execute the arrest.

I don't see anything the soldier did wrong and there certainly wasn't any "brutalizing" going on.

Have to say I agree. In fact the distinct lack of force made me think it was staged. A real IDF bloke would have beaten the shit out of him.

 

[Bluemoon_420]

I really don't see what the soldier has done wrong here. A kid using a slingshot stones him and he attempts to arrest the kid as the kid resists vehemently. Then a bunch of the kid's defenders show up and stop him from arresting the kid.

He then gives up the attempted arrest because he recognizes that catastrophic violence would be necessary to execute the arrest.

I don't see anything the soldier did wrong and there certainly wasn't any "brutalizing" going on.

They’re antagonised and brutalised on an almost daily basis by armed IDF and settlers, I’ve seen it first hand.

Just a couple of months ago the IDF shot and killed a 3 year old toddler in the Tamimi family. By accident of course! Just like the other 50 or so children this year alone in the West Bank.

You might want to look at what actually goes on in the West Bank to understand why the kids throw stones at them, before you respond with such callousness.

 

[robbieh]

And he posted this after he was sacked:

And he posted this after he was sacked:

A footballer in touch with reality. Unusual

 

[blueinsa]

Well said.
I find the constant vilification of anyone who is critical of Israel’s actions as support of Hamas and/or antisemitism not only tedious, disingenuous, illogical but without self awareness in many instances.

It’s the same for anyone who dares to support Israel in its war against Hamas.

 

[Username Required]

The State of Israel issued an unprecedented warning Friday...

Israel Warns Citizens: Avoid 'Openly Displaying Israeli and Jewish Symbols' Abroad

The State of Israel warned citizens traveling abroad to avoid "openly displaying Israeli and Jewish symbols" due to a surge in antisemitism.

www.breitbart.com

 

[Bluemoon_420]

Damn CNN with their Red Cross propaganda:

 

[TinFoilHat]

The State of Israel issued an unprecedented warning Friday...

Israel Warns Citizens: Avoid 'Openly Displaying Israeli and Jewish Symbols' Abroad

The State of Israel warned citizens traveling abroad to avoid "openly displaying Israeli and Jewish symbols" due to a surge in antisemitism.

www.breitbart.com

I think the surge is disgust at a fascist using a justified reprisal against terrorists as carte blanch to murder innocent people and steal their land.

 

[bluethrunthru]

can't name them nor what organisations they are affiliated to but they were terrorists ok you just have to believe me

 

[bluethrunthru]

I really don't see what the soldier has done wrong here. A kid using a slingshot stones him and he attempts to arrest the kid as the kid resists vehemently. Then a bunch of the kid's defenders show up and stop him from arresting the kid.

He then gives up the attempted arrest because he recognizes that catastrophic violence would be necessary to execute the arrest.

I don't see anything the soldier did wrong and there certainly wasn't any "brutalizing" going on.

Re-read what you wrote and put emphasis on the words KID and SOLDIER.

 

[robbieh]

I think the surge is disgust at a fascist using a justified reprisal against terrorists as carte blanch to murder innocent people and steal their land.

True. But if I had lived in Kenya say during the Iraq war I would be surprised if anyone blamed me personally just because I was British.
I think people who support the Palestinian cause need to be clear on this. The beef is with Netanyahu and his cronies. Not with Jewish people.

 

[goalmole]

IMO you’re excusing us from a lot of responsibility.

Iran was us mostly.

I totally agree that we have an illustrious history in regime change, a lot of the time we are the American's junior tag team partner.

 

[robbieh]

I totally agree that we have an illustrious history in regime change, a lot of the time we are the American's junior tag team partner.

The thing that always amazes me is the extent to which the Americans, the French, the British have interfered in the middle east and North Africa. Yet they're the bad guys despite them never invading a European country or deposing elected prime ministers. Well not since the Moors!

 

[St.Pauli support]

El Ghazi sacked by Mainz for a pro-Palestinian social media post. I’ve read the so-called offending piece and I don’t see it as supporting Hamas, more supporting innocent Palestinians

Legal case in Germany is under way.

"The Public Prosecutor's Office confirmed on reports that investigations had been started against the 28-year-old El Ghazi: "According to our assessment, there is initial suspicion against the accused of disturbing the public peace by endorsing crimes in conjunction with incitement to hatred by disseminating content," said the public prosecutor's office."

(For the law book freaks on here it's §§ 130 and 140 StGB ;) )

Instead of using a silly rhyme, people who want to support a free Palestine could just say "I want a free state of Palestine".

In my understanding, intentionally using the ambiguous rhyme in the context of the 7 October Hamas attacks and IDF bombing in Gaza is a straight case of antisemitism.

People who don't want to wipe out Israel never would use that rhyme.
Free Palestine? Yes of course.