Middle East Conflict

I don't think Hamas is a terrorist organization. Some actions of Hamas are in line with the definition of terrorist attacks, but Hamas exists because an independent Palestine cannot be established, and the Palestinian people have suffered from injustice for a long time. Hamas should be called a resistance organization rather than a terrorist organization. Calling Hamas a terrorist organization is a smear on the Palestinian people's resistance movement, and a beautification of Israeli oppression.
"An independent Palestine cannot be established" .
Given the facts on ground before October 7, I am struggling to understand what you mean.
Hamas is the elected government of Gaza and Gaza is an independent territory which belongs to the Palestinians.
 
Back to Gaza will reminisce the time when Haganah Irgun and Lehi attacking British troops. We abandoned Palestine quicktime in 1948 because of the increasing tension and animosity and hatred of Zionists against us.

Never forget that inside the majority moderate and ambivalent Jews who longed for the State of Israel and willing to wait for a political and win-win solution for us, Jews and Palestinians, there was that terror cell called Lehi. The cell that sought partnership with Nazis to throw us out of at that time British mandate Palestine.

They were very willing to join forces with Nazis.They signed the Havaara Agreement, they conducted assassinations on our soldiers and our prime ministers. Zettler and Stern were just the two of the leaders of Lehi, as the offshoot of Irgun, open to ally with Nazis.

Remember that the first steam ship (SS Tel Aviv) of Jews moving to Palestine was hoisting which flag.

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How about that commemorative coin…

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And here’s a list of British soldiers and officers killed in Palestine by Zionist Lehi before the 1st Nakba.

  1. T.G. Martin, British Police Sergeant. Executed at tennis court, Sep 1946
  2. Major John Doran, and a number of British soldiers. Food Control Office bombed, Sep 1946
  3. British soldiers dead and wounded by hundreds. Bombed the cars of British soldiers during curfew, 1946
  4. British soldiers killed by dozens. Car bomb attack. Dec 1946
  5. British police sergeant. Shot and killed outside of police station. The police station then after bombed and policemen killed. Jan 1947
  6. British officers killed. Barclays Bank. Feb 1947
  7. A British officer and 3 policemen killed. Commanders Office. Apr 1947
  8. Assistant Superintendent of Police Albert Conquest. Killed by submachine gun. Spins Store. Apr 1947.
  9. British soldiers killed, because in response to British detaining Lehi youth Alex Rubowitz, May 1947.
  10. Major Roy Farran’s brother, killed by mail bomb. own house.
  11. 50 British soldiers and policemen. Killed by bombing. Ben Yehuda Street. Jan 1948
  12. George White and William Alfred Harrison, British bomb experts requested by Arabs to help defuse the Zionist bombs. They failed, bombed exploded and killed the two British Experts and Arabs. Mar 1948.
  13. British soldiers and officers killed. Romema, Apr 1948
  14. 338 British soldiers killed throughout the war. The british soldiers left Palestine immediately days after Israel Independence, 14 May 1948 4:00PM.
Other attacks outside Palestine include the many assassination attempts. On General Evelyn Barker, Foreign Secretary Ernest Bevin, Baron Moyne Walter Edward Guiness (assassinated in Cairo).

After the IDF was established, the Lehi, Irgun and Haganah registered into the IDF. In years after, prominent leaders held high government offices, including Prime Ministers - Yitzhak Shamir (formerly Lehi leader who attacked British in Palestine), Menachem Begin (formerly Irgun leader who attacked British in Palestine, including bombing the British HQ in King David Hotel).

In the 1940s, our troops were defensive of Arabs and against the mass immigration of illegal Jew refugees. The process was meant to be through legal means. But that is against the Zionist terror cells‘ perception of the Promised Land. It’s not a surprise that after the Israel independence, the Nakba happened after.

Most importantly, do not conflate all Jews as complying to the right wing Greater Zionism. As early as 1910 that US Jews were against the Zionism and the establishment of Israel.
Thanks for that highly informative post.

Am just coming to the end of Avi Shlaim’s magisterial history of the Palestine-Israel conflict.

In spite of its 867 page length, it is very well-written and holds the reader’s interest throughout. Plus, as the cover states, it is ‘strikingly fair-minded’. Would thoroughly recommend it.

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Unsurprisingly, Shlaim confirms that Sharon and Netanyahu are - as we already knew - massive cunts of the highest order.

But Moshe Sharett comes across well in the book, as do Shlomo Ben-Ami and King Hussein of Jordan.

With 75 pages to go am still awaiting Shlaim’s verdict on Yasser Arafat.

Incidentally, if anyone is looking for a good book on Hamas, Tareq Baconi’s Hamas Contained looks excellent.

Have only read the preface online but it was superb.
 
"An independent Palestine cannot be established" .
Given the facts on ground before October 7, I am struggling to understand what you mean.
Hamas is the elected government of Gaza and Gaza is an independent territory which belongs to the Palestinians.
Clearly.
 

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