Middle East Conflict

I am going to pose a question as i truely dont understand this

The IDF and the state have proved by their actions that they are happy to wipe out gaza and the palestinian people so why is it not ok for them to say they want to wipe israel off the map ? And is it the regular people saying it or the israel gov and hamas trading blows ? Geniuine question so dont shout at me please
Clearly some Israelis are frankly supporting genocide. Others are doing their best to promote peace.

On Thursday morning, a handful of cars prepared to set out from Tel Aviv's central train station, flying little purple flags reading, in Hebrew and Arabic, "Thou shalt not cause starvation." The small convoy would be following a large truck whose bed carried cases of food, intended for the hungry of the Gaza Strip.


They might of course meet the genocidal Israelis trying to stop aid getting to Gaza.
 
This Israel ‘war’ is that large window of opportunity where wannabe serial killers got off unpunished for homicide crime.

 
It cannot be long now before the Palestinians (and Pro Palestinian marchers) turn against the evil repression of Hamas whose brutal inhumane massacre on October 7th has brought so much suffering to their own people.
 
I am going to pose a question as i truely dont understand this

The IDF and the state have proved by their actions that they are happy to wipe out gaza and the palestinian people so why is it not ok for them to say they want to wipe israel off the map ? And is it the regular people saying it or the israel gov and hamas trading blows ? Geniuine question so dont shout at me please
You need to think this through. Stating that you want to wipe out an entire people is genocide. Now, I suppose, it's a free world and you are entitled to be honest with your support of wiping out Israel but what position does that leave Israel in? In any 'game' both sides tend to play by the same rules. If your rules are the total removal of Israel from the planet then do not complain if Israel want to play by the same rules.
I think the 'where do regular people stand' question is really good. There is a general 20/80 rule that holds in so many cases. 80% of all problems are caused by 20% of the people (the extremists). So get rid of the extremists (those who want genocide) on both sides and the 'regular' 80% would live quite normal, not perfect, relatively peaceful lives.
 
It cannot be long now before the Palestinians (and Pro Palestinian marchers) turn against the evil repression of Hamas whose brutal inhumane massacre on October 7th has brought so much suffering to their own people.
And it can't be long now before the Israelis and their supporters turn against Netanyahu whose continued support of illegal settlements, blockade of Gaza, has brought so much suffering to his own people.
 
I think the 'where do regular people stand' question is really good. There is a general 20/80 rule that holds in so many cases. 80% of all problems are caused by 20% of the people (the extremists). So get rid of the extremists (those who want genocide) on both sides and the 'regular' 80% would live quite normal, not perfect, relatively peaceful lives.
That's what ccp did in xinjiang. They provided everything, schools, jobs, new house, roads, electricity, etc.
The Chinese goverment made a "belt and road" project, they want to bring prosperity to xinjiang, even Afghan Taliban want to join it.
But the west media still call it "genocide". Their mouths are full of "human rights", "Uighurs".
In 7.5 terrorist attack, do people know how many victims are uighurs themselves?
I am not against you , I totally agree what you said.
But it could be more complex than that. In many case, the media, they are among the "20% of the people(the extremists)", cold blood, they have no heart.
People just repeat the old "evil repression" story over and over again, every event, every part of the world. No truth, and no justice.
 
And it can't be long now before the Israelis and their supporters turn against Netanyahu whose continued support of illegal settlements, blockade of Gaza, has brought so much suffering to his own people.
I think the Israeli people have already turned against Netanyahu and he will almost certainly be voted out at the next election. When do you see Palestine reciprocating and getting rid of the genocide supporting Hamas?
 
That's what ccp did in xinjiang. They provided everything, schools, jobs, new house, roads, electricity, etc.
The Chinese goverment made a "belt and road" project, they want to bring prosperity to xinjiang, even Afghan Taliban want to join it.
But the west media still call it "genocide". Their mouths are full of "human rights", "Uighurs".
In 7.5 terrorist attack, do people know how many victims are uighurs themselves?
I am not against you , I totally agree what you said.
But it could be more complex than that. In many case, the media, they are among the "20% of the people(the extremists)", cold blood, they have no heart.
People just repeat the old "evil repression" story over and over again, every event, every part of the world. No truth, and no justice.
I do not know much about the plight of the Uighurs so am not going to comment on that.
I certainly agree with your later comments though. It seems to me that the 80% of people not interested in politics are right minded. Politics involves a large degree of power and control and the people attracted to it tend to be hugely opinionated (irony not missed!) and dismissive of other views. Reasonable is a boring word but the world would be a lot, lot better if only reasonable, peace loving people were allowed into power positions.
 
I think the Israeli people have already turned against Netanyahu and he will almost certainly be voted out at the next election. When do you see Palestine reciprocating and getting rid of the genocide supporting Hamas?
Probably when they see signs that Israel and the US are serious about implementing a Palestinian state.
 
It cannot be long now before the Palestinians (and Pro Palestinian marchers) turn against the evil repression of Hamas whose brutal inhumane massacre on October 7th has brought so much suffering to their own people.
I'm sure that at the forefront of the Pro Palestinian marches is still too highlight the Isrealis murdering 100+ Children every night.
 
It cannot be long now before the Palestinians (and Pro Palestinian marchers) turn against the evil repression of Hamas whose brutal inhumane massacre on October 7th has brought so much suffering to their own people.
How can you get terrorists out of your country without thousands being shot ?
 
It cannot be long now before the Palestinians (and Pro Palestinian marchers) turn against the evil repression of Hamas whose brutal inhumane massacre on October 7th has brought so much suffering to their own people.

Ah, the ol’ [insert response here] + “but Hamas…”

How do you find the Lehi and Palmach that killed our own British soldiers? Including the British soldiers killed because of helping out Palestinians in dismantling a bomb?
 
Remember remember of how they killed our very own. Never forget.

Here’s just one picture as a reminder:

Hanged_sergeants.jpg


Sergeant Clifford Martin and Sergeant Mervyn Paice, the two British sergeants kidnapped and hanged by the Irgun (now IDF) in 1947.

Who publicly condemned these strings of many killings, from pointblank headshot to submachine gun shots? Tennis court, canteen, tavern, even the police station?

Both Palestine and the United Kingdom.
 
I’d say they are pretty fucking integral to the current shitshow wouldn’t you?
See my earlier post.

Do you want to know what the Irgun spoke of us? Here’s their public declaration:

We recognize no one-sided laws of war. If the British are determined that their way out of the country should be lined by an avenue of gallows and of weeping fathers, mothers, wives, and sweethearts, we shall see to it that in this there is no racial discrimination. The gallows will not be all of one color.... Their price will be paid in full.”

Look.

If we stayed in Palestine instead of fleeing from the IDF’s sheer animosity, the deaths of our own will be in thousands. They already killed close to 300 in less than a year (1947-1948)
 
Remember remember of how they killed our very own. Never forget.

Here’s just one picture as a reminder:

Hanged_sergeants.jpg


Sergeant Clifford Martin and Sergeant Mervyn Paice, the two British sergeants kidnapped and hanged by the Irgun (now IDF) in 1947.

Who publicly condemned these strings of many killings, from pointblank headshot to submachine gun shots? Tennis court, canteen, tavern, even the police station?

Both Palestine and the United Kingdom.

Maybe post the full context to those killings and what had happened that led to them and to suggest the Irgun became the IDF is laughable but entirely predictable given your obvious stance on all things Israeli.
 
Maybe post the full context to those killings and what had happened that led to them and to suggest the Irgun became the IDF is laughable but entirely predictable given your obvious stance on all things Israeli.

“Maybe” not. Clearly you have not read a single peer-reviewed and evidence-informed book (there are many over the years) but rather quickly jump to responses and conduct subjective bias, and likely fall into impressionable gamut, mutatis mutandis to what is most apropos against pro-Palestine perspectīvus.
 
How can you get terrorists out of your country without thousands being shot ?
Is another very good question.
It has probably never, ever been done. But it does lead onto another question,
"If Palestine cannot remove genocide loving terrorists then who will?"

What is needed is for the Palestinian side to accept today's reality and not hark back to 70 years ago arguments. They have lost that 70 year old argument and must accept the Israelis and their nuclear weapons are going nowhere. Thousands of Palestinian lives are being lost fighting a battle long ago lost. Accepting the Israelis have a right to live will mean that millions and millions will support fairly negotiated borders, not supporting Israel has a right to exist means millions and millions sympathise with Israel. For fucks sake how hard can it be to live without wanting your neighbours dead?
 

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