Missed out on a ticket for the derby?

I'll be honest, I've been on both sides of this argument. The ticket I normally get comes from a friend who goes to most games, but not Old Trafford. This year he missed out although he's barely missed a game since the last derby, yes it's disappointing, but these things happen.

For Old Firm games up here, I generally get tickets because my big cousin runs a Rangers supporters bus that gets a big allocation. As long as the club members all get a ticket, I'm next in line to get one so I can't really complain about supporters clubs getting big allocations.

I'll still be down in Manchester for the weekend & hopefully get a ticket, but it's looking less & less likely as the game gets closer.
 
de niro said:
The supporters club debate will go on and on but any system that's allows a rag to get a ticket in the city end is totally flawed.

A points of blue meeting is due and I'll be bringing this matter up.
I've brought it up and you will just get the usual bullshit from the club.

Blue Mooner is absolutely right about how it works: you have to apply well in advance of points details being known and, as I understand it, the club will allocate a number of tickets to that branch. How they then get distributed is up to the branch.

Prestwich & Whitefield were defunct for a couple of years until recently but I bet they still got tickets,
 
Makes me piss.

All these OSC members: Where you at Spurs? Where you at Chelsea, etc.

You're missing the point.

Nobody has a problem with OSC members who have the required loyalty points. If they've been to those matches fair enough. They deserve a derby ticket. The gripe is with OSC members who don't have enough loyalty points (for United, etc), but still get a derby ticket because they are a member of that branch or happen to be in with the secretary.

My other gripe is about pre-odering derby tickets. Yeah, I know. Boring. However, why should OSC members be able to order their debry tickets 5, 6, or 7 weeks in advance via the OSC secretary, when the rest of us have to wait until the day when the points criteria drops, and then have to queue up, taking a chance.

When you see a OSC secretary walk out/away with a handful of Derby tickets, and the rest of us who have been waiting in the queue, and some in front of him are told derby tickets are sold out, it leaves a very bitter taste.

No doubt I'll get the usual reply from OSC members. It doesn't happen. Join a branch. Blah, blah......

PS. And yes, I didn't go to Spurs or Chelsea. But I'm going to Aris.(hopefully) It's all swings and roundabouts. I can't make every away match as I work till 1.30 pm on a Saturday. If an away match is in the North West, North Or Midlands, I always try and get out of work early, which means losing pay, on top of ticket and travel prices.
 
*singingtheblues* said:
I was told by a mate of mine, that courtesy of a supporters club (which I won't name) a blue who "never goes to games" (I'd imagine that was exaggerated a little, but nonetheless) was given 5 tickets for the derby, two of which he has now given to rags.

So, if like me, you narrowly missed out on a ticket due to your loyalty points you can sleep safely in the knowledge that there will be a 'blue' taking two rags along with himself in the away end.

Good ol' supporters clubs.

like you i am not going to the game on saturday. I could off got the tickets on the sat morning they sold out! but taking rags into our end is just plain wrong!
 
swp80 said:
samharris said:
Why do posters on here only have digs at OSC's on away derby week ?? seems the rest of the season this issue doesnt come into the equasion.

This is exactly it, I'm a proud member of a supporters club, they do a hell of a lot for the club with the branch managers not getting a penny out of it. I got a ticket through my own points as you have to have enough points to qualify to get a ticket anyway. where was this thread last week when we didnt sell out for Birmingham?

Also not sold out 800 tickets for Aris?

Just because its united everybody wants to go, try going to the lesser games and maybe youll stand a chance!

You could use that argument both ways mate.
 
jrb said:
Makes me piss.

All these OSC members: Where you at Spurs? Where you at Chelsea, etc.

You're missing the point.

Nobody has a problem with OSC members who have the required loyalty points. If they've been to those matches fair enough. They deserve a derby ticket. The gripe is with OSC members who don't have enough loyalty points (for United, etc), but still get a derby ticket because they are a member of that branch or happen to be in with the secretary.

My other gripe is about pre-odering derby tickets. Yeah, I know. Boring. However, why should OSC members be able to order their debry tickets 5, 6, or 7 weeks in advance via the OSC secretary, when the rest of us have to wait until the day when the points criteria drops, and then have to queue up, taking a chance.

When you see a OSC secretary walk out/away with a handful of Derby tickets, and the rest of us who have been waiting in the queue, and some in front of him are told derby tickets are sold out, it leaves a very bitter taste.

No doubt I'll get the usual reply from OSC members. It doesn't happen. Join a branch. Blah, blah......

PS. And yes, I didn't go to Spurs or Chelsea. But I'm going to Aris.(hopefully) It's all swings and roundabouts. I can't make every away match as I work till 1.30 pm on a Saturday. If an away match is in the North West, North Or Midlands, I always try and get out of work early, which means losing pay, on top of ticket and travel prices.
Have you got many points yourself then mate ?
 
Blue Mooner said:
Supporters clubs apply at least 7 weeks in advance of the actual game and well before anything is known about the number of points that may be required and tickets are allocated to the supporters club before the tickets go on official sale so any idea that points come into the equation is a fallacy. How can the club allocate tickets to SC's when they don't know how many points will ultimately be required? Because they don't have to - its irrelevant. The club allocate a number of tickets to each SC its then up to that SC how they allocate them. However, the attendee must be a member. It couldn't work any other way, otherwise they would have to release tickets to each SC in dribs and drabs as points are met - an administrative nightmare

In fact many of the members applying at my club are city card holders and I dare say a number of those who are going to OT

If that weren't the case what is the advantage of applying through a Supporters club? If anything its worse because you have to make your mind up about going sometimes before you know the definite date of the match. I call up for my own tickets and it takes less than 2 mins for me to get a ticket so this idea that the branch is more convenient is nonsense because somehow you have to get your money to the secretary anyway.

The advantage of being in a SC is that if you are on low points you are more likely to get a ticket for the big games.


Blue Mooner said:
I'm sorry Cleavers 20 is a guess but I know for a fact that if I didn't have enough points then 90 percent of those in my branch wouldn't have qualified so how do you explain over 35 tickets being allocated to our branch? There is never in a million years 35 people in our branch with over 5250 points. FACT.

So any idea of tickets being tied to points in the SC's is nonsense. I'm not going to report anything I class many of these people as friends. its not there fault they're using the system to their best advantage but the club need to look at it because there is a lot of loyal blues who have missed out to JCL's

Nail. On. The. Head. Anything the likes of cleavers and FG would like to add to that?


It does says a lot about the supporters clubs that the only people defending them are the very same people benefiting from their warped allocation of tickets. If members of the supporters clubs themselves lambasting them for their ticketing policy doesn't tell you there's a problem, nothing will.

It's endemic among the supporters clubs, it's practically the sole reason they have any members. Join a supporters club, all but guarantee yourself a ticket for the 'big' games.

But you've got to admire the barefaced fucking cheek of all those people who have benefited from the SC banging the drum questioning the loyalty of those who are criticising the SC.

The majority of us buy tickets of our own accord via the club, every fortnight. I missed a handful of aways last season, and this season has been no different. I travelled to WHL this season and the week before Christmas last season, I travelled to Stamford Bridge last season, Craven Cottage , St Andrews, Upton Park, Fratton Park, all of the so called 'lesser' games which generate little demand.

But lo and behold, once the derby at the swamp comes around the supporters clubs' demand increases ten fold, and people like myself miss out. People who attend every week regardless of the opposition, and people who have narrowly failed to quality for tickets via the club this season.

And we've missed out to people who rarely attend, or who have even jumped on the fucking bandwagon (see the above quoted post). All those people gain their tickets courtesy of some supporters club or another.

It's funny though, that on being told there will be JCLs and even rags in the away end on Saturday, some posters see fit to question the loyalty of other blues in an attempt at defending the supporters clubs.

A prime example of the good ol' 'I'm alright fuck everyone else' attitude that perpetuates bluemoon.

Quite predictable, and depressingly so. Tossers.
 
*singingtheblues* said:
Blue Mooner said:
Supporters clubs apply at least 7 weeks in advance of the actual game and well before anything is known about the number of points that may be required and tickets are allocated to the supporters club before the tickets go on official sale so any idea that points come into the equation is a fallacy. How can the club allocate tickets to SC's when they don't know how many points will ultimately be required? Because they don't have to - its irrelevant. The club allocate a number of tickets to each SC its then up to that SC how they allocate them. However, the attendee must be a member. It couldn't work any other way, otherwise they would have to release tickets to each SC in dribs and drabs as points are met - an administrative nightmare

In fact many of the members applying at my club are city card holders and I dare say a number of those who are going to OT

If that weren't the case what is the advantage of applying through a Supporters club? If anything its worse because you have to make your mind up about going sometimes before you know the definite date of the match. I call up for my own tickets and it takes less than 2 mins for me to get a ticket so this idea that the branch is more convenient is nonsense because somehow you have to get your money to the secretary anyway.

The advantage of being in a SC is that if you are on low points you are more likely to get a ticket for the big games.


Blue Mooner said:
I'm sorry Cleavers 20 is a guess but I know for a fact that if I didn't have enough points then 90 percent of those in my branch wouldn't have qualified so how do you explain over 35 tickets being allocated to our branch? There is never in a million years 35 people in our branch with over 5250 points. FACT.

So any idea of tickets being tied to points in the SC's is nonsense. I'm not going to report anything I class many of these people as friends. its not there fault they're using the system to their best advantage but the club need to look at it because there is a lot of loyal blues who have missed out to JCL's

Nail. On. The. Head. Anything the likes of cleavers and FG would like to add to that?


It does says a lot about the supporters clubs that the only people defending them are the very same people benefiting from their warped allocation of tickets. If members of the supporters clubs themselves lambasting them for their ticketing policy doesn't tell you there's a problem, nothing will.

It's endemic among the supporters clubs, it's practically the sole reason they have any members. Join a supporters club, all but guarantee yourself a ticket for the 'big' games.

But you've got to admire the barefaced fucking cheek of all those people who have benefited from the SC banging the drum questioning the loyalty of those who are criticising the SC.

The majority of us buy tickets of our own accord via the club, every fortnight. I missed a handful of aways last season, and this season has been no different. I travelled to WHL this season and the week before Christmas last season, I travelled to Stamford Bridge last season, Craven Cottage , St Andrews, Upton Park, Fratton Park, all of the so called 'lesser' games which generate little demand.

But lo and behold, once the derby at the swamp comes around the supporters clubs' demand increases ten fold, and people like myself miss out. People who attend every week regardless of the opposition, and people who have narrowly failed to quality for tickets via the club this season.

And we've missed out to people who rarely attend, or who have even jumped on the fucking bandwagon (see the above quoted post). All those people gain their tickets courtesy of some supporters club or another.

It's funny though, that on being told there will be JCLs and even rags in the away end on Saturday, some posters see fit to question the loyalty of other blues in an attempt at defending the supporters clubs.

A prime example of the good ol' 'I'm alright fuck everyone else' attitude that perpetuates bluemoon.

Quite predictable, and depressingly so. Tossers.

THIS!

SPOT ON.............Ive missed 2 games in the 2 seasons.........okay I only went to home games before this and missed out on the Derby by one day. Next year I will be there (hopefully) but you never know with this system. May have to become an OSC memeber somewhere to guarantee a ticket! Maybe the only way, shame.

Anyone got a spare? ;)

Roll on Monday and the flight to Greece.............
 

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