Monaco - Post Match thread.

[Lancet Fluke]

We had no hub. We were there for the taking. We had the 2 goal lead and there was simply no need to be that wide open.

And if you say this player or that player was out of sorts why the fuck not take them off.

Pep got this badly wrong.

For me it was absolutely bizarre how passive Pep was last night. The players didn't help matters at times but he's the only one who could change things and to me it looked like he just sat/stood and watched it unfold when we desperately needed him to manage the team through a tough night.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

. . . . . . . but we fucked up at home to concede 3 goals at home is a joke. The same yesterday some of the mistakes are getting to be a joke. .

Had we won that tie on away goals I suppose Monaco fans could point to defensive frailties in their team, and it's a case of which foot has the boot on as to whether we point to the defence as poor or we highlight the attacking skill involved. The commentator in the first game must have wanted himself blind at the Flatcow chip, but only Stones on this entire planet, or perhaps Otters as well(!) would have gone to ground on the edge of our pen. Every goal they scored at the Etihad was clinically taken but it was preceded by some of the shittiest defending you will probably see in the PL, let alone the CL! And the goals last night - the third was just the sucker goal from a team that can concede from nothing. One minute yer've got the tie and the next the ball is in yer net!

Very disappointing. But it does show that we need reinforcements. Our full backs just allow the wingers to put in crosses with ne'er the slightest trouble. Our forwards need ten chances to score one.

 

[toffee balls]

A very bad day at the office.
The point I am trying to make is that you cannot win at this level when several players are below par.

If I had to criticise , what the fuck was Sagna trying to do positionally first half.
He had no idea of where he was supposed to be.

 

[City_Sean]

Silva? Aguero? De Bruyne fernadinho are definitely good enough. The other 3 I agree with you but to be fair clichy and sagna are well past their best

Where were these players last night? Aguero and Silva have been part of 5 pitiful CL runs. De Bruyne doesnt have the stomach for a fight and Fernandinho has fifteen good games at the start of the season before dropping off a cliff.

 

[Akiva]

We had no hub. We were there for the taking. We had the 2 goal lead and there was simply no need to be that wide open.

If we were that wide open they'd have scored more. Your argument is that Yaya should have played, fair enough, but Dinho is quite capable of doing the job just as well but was completely off kilter. Ditto KDB, ditto Silva, ditto Sterling and our defence are shocking regardless.

And if you say this player or that player was out of sorts why the fuck not take them off.

Four or five players underperformed, who the fuck do you take them off for? Delph?

Pep got this badly wrong.

Yeah, you're right, after all the shit you gave him about not playing Silva and Sterling, but playing Yaya instead, against Stoke, that he'd come out and do the same thing again the next week is shocking. The arrogance of the man.

 

[blueraid]

There is no doubt that Pep will be successful- who wouldn't after throwing £200 million at a team (before the start of next season)? But he has definitely shown his arse this season to be a manager who still has a lot to learn... Yes the full backs needed shoring up- so why not buy one? Why not buy 2? Had we paid 50 million for 2 quality full backs rather than Sterling would we have done better last night with Yaya on the field? It's a waste of time saying the team wasn't good enough... He's the guy who brings in the players, and no doubt was in MP's last season... And talking of transfers, he brought in Bravo, leaving us with Willi at this stage of th CL! Now Willi is a legend but he isn't really PL level. He's also purchased an old Spanish international to sit on the bench and an injury prone German who was even injured when we bought him! No doubting Sane was a great signing but other than that his signing have left a lot to be desired... It's his fault we are in this mess regarding poor players.. He carted Hart off easily enough and brought in a replacement, so why not a full back?

I won't even go into the niaive tactics but.... Finally anyone who thinks Kolarov is a CL centre back needs to give their head a wobble!
We will get there.... Eventually but he is making many more mistakes than I expected him to.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Nah , not having that at all.

You can throw tactics out of the window when Key players have a day off.
Fernandinho was dreadful as was De Bruyne and Silva went AWOL.

But Fernandinho was dreadful because of tactics. In the first half it was Fernandinho versus all of their midfield and full backs on his own when Silva and de Bruyne joined any attacks. Those tactics were dreadful and left Fernandinho isolated with up to five or six players to deal with on his own.

 

[pb1951]

i didnt think we'd win the game in Monaco, but i did think a 2 goal lead was enough insurance to see us through on aggregate. Shame that we surrended that with only half the team that bothered to defend it.

I had £50 on Monaco to qualify at 4/1 (thought it would offset my disappointment but it hasn't)

 

[Gabriel]

A very bad day at the office.
The point I am trying to make is that you cannot win at this level when several players are below par.

If I had to criticise , what the fuck was Sagna trying to do positionally first half.
He had no idea of where he was supposed to be.

Sagna in central midfield and de Bruyne at left back. It was a night of interesting permutations to say the least. :-)

 

[flb]

At least Txiki can now throw another £200m at the problem , after all hes not spent much on defenders has he?

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Where was the organisation for their winner n'all? No fucker was marking Bakayoko for that header, not a single player