Monaco - Post Match thread.

prestonibbo_mcfc said:
Pep is trying to implement his style. We are going to play that way win, lose or draw.
He won't do pragmatism. He will keep with his same way of working until the players get it. If they
don't, they go and he gets players that do.
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I don't understand why no-one sees the flaws in this.
 
karen7 said:
He has been back in training for a week or so following an injury in training,there is no conspiracy going on,until pep can be confident he can play a full game he won't be playing,it's that simple
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I never said there was a conspiracy...Pep had him training for 4-5 weeks last time (before he got injured in training - a slight injury according to what Pep said). He even traveled with the squad but didnt play in the huddersfield match....yet neither over the 4-5 weeks when he was fit did he play bar once and since then nothing.

Ive suggested before that I hope its cause Pep thniks its cause he cant trust Kompany not pulling up again...thats the only viable reason in my mind cause if he is fit he should be playing.....our defensive displays alone this season prove that!
 
quiet_riot said:
I don't understand why no-one sees the flaws in this.
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It is simple.

Pep believes he has a formula for winning a very, very high percentage of the games he plays, and thus winning trophies. That formula means possession (denying the opposition the ball to harm you) and players with the technical ability to pass, move, control & finally score. The problem has been more the "score" than anything else, because the chances have been plentiful.

Clearly, he needs some additions at the back, but the defense has not been as bad as everyone seems to think, especially recently. That said, world class reinforcements at the back would better allow the forwards...all five or six of them...to trust that every counter attack isn't going to result in a goal or goalmouth scramble.
 
bloody hell 1200 posts is that a record for a post match thread ? Not had the sheer joy reading the posts but my take is the players were not brave enough , they were overrawed by some young aggressive but naive players and the massive 18,000 crowd , now look at our players and ask yourself should that ever happen . You can blame Pep's team selection Yaya should have started instead of KDB because our kev has'nt played well since xmas whilst Yaya has dictated our games in that period.
The players let Pep and the supporters down , because when they decided to show some balls after Pep's "teamtalk" we dominated Monaco , too little too late against top european teams , so 100% the players fault for one of the most disappointing results since the Sheik arrived.
Hopefully players will show some desire for 90 minutes and take their angst out against the Dippers on Sunday , if they don't it's time to for a rebuild with younger hungry players like Garcia , Roberts , Zinchenko , and a couple of top european prospects , (and a domineering leader at centre back who can stay fit) who have'nt seen it all and done it all.
 
sir baconface said:
This thread is testament to how footballing values have become totally warped by silly money.

Strip out the verbiage and we're saying we need another £200m/£300m to outdo ragged-arsed teams like Monaco (and Leicester City).

And then we say "let's raid the fcukers of their talent". Why? Because we're minted and can't bring on our own youngsters or motivate our own millionaires or organise a defence. Don't blame the boss though. It's not "his" team until he's spent hundreds of millions.

Then finally we win a trophy (hopefully) and pay homage to the best shopper manager in the world.

This isn't a go specifically at Pep. But it's symptomatic of our club and several others.
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I love shiny new toys, and it works for Chelsea. I'm sick of those cockney cünts spending wisely and winning stuff while we spend the same and end up with some decent and some shite. I've had a taste of winning stuff and want lots more after years of putting up with the vile rag scum hoovering up everything going while we played Macc Town.

Fuck morals, fuck ethics, fuck shitty little teams full of pricks like Vardy, we should be dominating with the players we have and should have been for the last 5 seasons but we've seriously underachieved, partly through too many average or weak-willed signings.

Should stop fucking about with 'ok/decent' players and just shit on everyone and buy Alaba, Dele Alli, Bale and players of that ilk.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
We do have some youngsters who might be ready to supplement?

More quality than quantity is what's now needed.

New first-choice keeper. EDERSON

Two new full-backs. MENDY-FABINIO

Two central defenders (one who can cover the left hand side.) LAPORTE-HERNANDEZ

One central midfielder to replace Yaya. ISCO

One attacker/wide man to replace Nolito/Navas/Aguero. MBAPPE

Mbappe would be my preference for the last requirement.
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That's around £280m with sales we are looking at £200m net.

We may see Aguero & Isco swap with Sergios wages making up the difference.
Ederson £45m
Laporte £50m
Hernandez £25m
Mendy & Fabinio combined 60m
Mbappa £50m
 
Still in Monaco and still p#@+&d off.
Should have started Ya Ya it was crying out for him.
City let the fans down last night and skulked off down the tunnel without even an acknowledgement. Only John Stones made any effort and gave his shirt to a supporter - totally unacceptable when we've trudged across Europe to get behind them. We might as well have not been there. When we win they love us. Forget the FA Cup as well. No silverware this season.
 
The Riot Club said:
I love shiny new toys, and it works for Chelsea. I'm sick of those cockney cünts spending wisely and winning stuff while we spend the same and end up with some decent and some shite. I've had a taste of winning stuff and want lots more after years of putting up with the vile rag scum hoovering up everything going while we played Macc Town.

Fuck morals, fuck ethics, fuck shitty little teams full of pricks like Vardy, we should be dominating with the players we have and should have been for the last 5 seasons but we've seriously underachieved, partly through too many average or weak-willed signings.

Should stop fucking about with 'ok/decent' players and just shit on everyone and buy Alaba, Dele Alli, Bale and players of that ilk.
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FFP stymied SM's ambitions. That's why we were signing some players who any top 6 team could have signed.
 
karen7 said:
I posted typical city coming up and i had just pressed post and they scored,we had no composure at all,i was shouting forv kev off and yaya on and try and keep the ball and calm it all down,really annoyed by the whole thing
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When we get free kicks in similar places against the likes of Burnley, there's a morass of opposing players in the box in layers making life hard for us. Why can't we do that ?
 
HarrytheBlue said:
FFP stymied SM's ambitions. That's why we were signing some players who any top 6 team could have signed.
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If that were the case I suspect we'd have saved the money for the appropriate top 4 buy.
Simple fact is in some cases we were mugged off - up to personal choice who you want to blame, for me at this time it's not the current manager it's higher up
 
HarrytheBlue said:
When we get free kicks in similar places against the likes of Burnley, there's a morass of opposing players in the box in layers making life hard for us. Why can't we do that ?
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The reason is our players were already (Silva and Sterling) creeping the other way looking for a counter attack, I agree we should've packed the box and seen the game out
 
karen7 said:
He has been back in training for a week or so following an injury in training,there is no conspiracy going on,until pep can be confident he can play a full game he won't be playing,it's that simple
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Is it allowable for Vinnie to have a game with the EDS, or is he too old? He needs some competitive games to prove his fitness.
 
With only a CL place, and an unlikely FA Cup win, are our owners and those running the club going to write another season off?

Just like Pelligrini's last one.

Oh!

And is it a club policy to allow 1st team players to see out their contracts before letting them go. Or are they actually going to address glaring issues like our 2 full back positions, which has been an on-going issue for a few seasons.

After last night and this season, I'm fed up with sentiment and loyalty. If players are too old, past it, or unfit, get rid of them and get the right players in who will do a job.
 
jrb said:
With only a CL place, and an unlikely FA Cup win, are our owners and those running the club going to write another season off?

Just like Pelligrini's last one.

Oh!

And is it a club policy to allow 1st team players to see out their contracts before letting them go. Or are they actually going to address glaring issues like our 2 full back positions, which has been an on-going issue for a few seasons.

After last night and this season, I'm fed up with sentiment and loyalty. If players are too old, past it, or unfit, get rid of them and get the right players in who will do a job.
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Why unlikely? Our fans are in full bitch mode. We were a keepers stud away from being in the quarter finals of the champions league. Man the fuck up and back the team.
 
blue62 said:
I'd go further, I don't want either of them in our half. Both are extremely limited players, very little ability and definitely gone this summer.
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2 of many.

Our biggest clean out for many a year and long overdue.

We will lose games under Pep but no one should have to tolerate and accept the performance against Monaco and they have to become a thing of the past if the club is to gain some respect as a force in club football.
 
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