More student protests

Jay-Mcfc said:
mcfcliam said:
Despise students with a passion.

Protest? You have it fucking easy you tax dodging, lazy, useless to society wankers.

99% do not go for the education.

2nd on my hate list below United.
Sorry Liam, but this is absolute bullshit. Some of us students get heavy fucking workloads, it was only the other week I was up till 3am two nights on the trot trying to get work done. If that's "Having it easy" then I want to know what having it hard is.

What I hate more is people generalising a whole population of students, as "lazy, tax dodging, useless to society wankers" because of the actions of a chunk of mind numb students who do "International Studies" as well as other shit courses. ALSO, I know for a fact there was a lot of none students there at the last protest.

It's OK mate. Every poster on this board could rattle off a 30,000 word dissertation in 15/20 minutes.

Indeed most on here never needed Uni anyway, they were just born know it alls.
 
Pigeonho said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
i agree about the violence, and people will always abuse any system, it's the unfortunate world we live in, but there are many, many students, who although they may not end up in specifically the subject they studied at uni for a career, do go and get good jobs and pay it back and have benefitted from it.

Wind out the totally meaningless subjects, that don't even have relevance to subjects taught at school, and instead promote apprenticeships into the media and advertising industry etc.

Educational subjects like Maths, Languages, Science etc. should be protected imo, I think people who go to unis to study proper subjects they studied at school(with variations to account for medicine, law etc.) should be allowed to continue as they are doing degrees and costs wise. Like I said I think there needs to be a compromise.
I wouldn't disagree with that one bit my friend. Anyone who does well for themselves is ok in my book, and if studying something to aim a specific career at is what needs to be done to make that decent life, then i'm all for that. It is solely those who spend 3 years doing nothing, then come out with a meaningless bit of paper which proves they pissed an easy subject, then go onto an everyday job who piss me off. A lad I grew up on our street with was one like that. He left school, went to college then Uni and studied absolute shite. He would wear this home made 'Ken Barlow is Jesus' vest, with a military shirt over it, and would leave his hair to go all weird and knotty. I would knock on after work to see if he wanted a pint, and he would still be in bed! We drifted apart after a while and I recently got in touch via Facebook after talking to his mum. The sheer irony with him now is that he is making untold amounts of money doing the thing he loved most as kids, fixing and making programmes on computers. He went to uni and studied something that meaningless I can't remember it, but it was nothing to do with what he does now. I don't like dossers mate, never have done.

that's fair enough mate, but you know it is uncanny how people end up making shed loads of money in something seperate to what they studied at uni, I don't think too many of them do it as a deliberate act, and who knows how many would actually end up in that career if they hadn't gone to uni, met certain people and found a job where they now lived, it's funny how things work.

I'm hopefully going to go to uni next year, I missed out this year, I originally wanted to do Physics but after slaving away at my A-Levels for 2 years I just wasn't able to get the grades, but have found I'm very good at modern languages so am re-applying for Languages this year, and studying french & spanish back at my 6th form for another year. I think it needs to be understood that there is a very big feeling of "why us?" within students because it's not seen as fair that we have to take all the punishment when the previous lot get away scott free, though it is an unfortunate reality of life.

You've obviously been given a bad impression by some slobs who shouldn't have gone to uni, but I think your perception is down to the people, not uni itself. I think there a lot of good courses worth studying by students who got the good required grades and uni can benefit and offer so much more as well as just a degree. I understand why there is a bad feeling towards a number of students and their irrelevant degrees, but ultimately I think the government has got its priorities wrong on the subject of education, which is a shame, but its lead to a situation where students as a whole get tarnished with one brush because of the actions of some idiots who many aren't even students. I think it's sad, but unsurprising really.

and SWP's back, if you're piling MORE debt on the students, then it's more that's being paid back, but yet in turn more taxpayer's money that's gone on them?

I think the system is flawed, not the price.
 
TheMightyQuinn said:
We can slag students off all we want but ultimately, if half of you lot had any semblance of education then this board wouldn't be so laughable at times. (not aimed at the OP by the way)


Name names Quinney.

*can anyone else smell that? It's like... ermm an acrid smokey smell*


;-)
 
SWP's back said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
We can slag students off all we want but ultimately, if half of you lot had any semblance of education then this board wouldn't be so laughable at times. (not aimed at the OP by the way)


Name names Quinney.

*can anyone else smell that? It's like... ermm an acrid smokey smell*


;-)

Hey, I've not smoked anything other than tobacco for the past few days, I'm in the midst of a slight lifestyle change!
 
University is an extension to education, not part of it. I made the decision not to go to Uni, but if I want to go to Uni, I should expect to pay for it.

I'm just watching these protests in London, and they have frig all to do with the message of protesting against fees. They're just causing mayhem for the hell of it. Do they really think that the Government will listen to them after this?

Get the batons out, water cannons and teach this idiots that's not the way to behave. We're too soft on these protestors, well I use the term protestors lightly.

In Manchester, "A large group have sat down at the back of the hall, singing 'if you hate Nick Clegg clap you hands"....there we go, more of that.

And if I hear of the Christmas market being damaged one bit, I'm signing up to be a Special Constable Now and heading down with a baton! :o)
 
TheMightyQuinn said:
Jay-Mcfc said:
Sorry Liam, but this is absolute bullshit. Some of us students get heavy fucking workloads, it was only the other week I was up till 3am two nights on the trot trying to get work done. If that's "Having it easy" then I want to know what having it hard is.

What I hate more is people generalising a whole population of students, as "lazy, tax dodging, useless to society wankers" because of the actions of a chunk of mind numb students who do "International Studies" as well as other shit courses. ALSO, I know for a fact there was a lot of none students there at the last protest.

It's OK mate. Every poster on this board could rattle off a 30,000 word dissertation in 15/20 minutes.

Indeed most on here never needed Uni anyway, they were just born know it alls.


So uni is where you learnt to be a know it all?

What course was that on? Was the "Holier than though BSc" or the "Diploma in drinking and Che Guevara Studies"?

-- Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:34 pm --

TheMightyQuinn said:
SWP's back said:
Name names Quinney.

*can anyone else smell that? It's like... ermm an acrid smokey smell*


;-)

Hey, I've not smoked anything other than tobacco for the past few days, I'm in the midst of a slight lifestyle change!

Good man, it means you can leave the Psycotherapy ward and just join me in Oncology in about 30/40 years. I love my Egyptian Regal's. Lasted me 3 months so far.
 
SWP's back said:
nashark said:
I think the taxpayer, if it is true that he subsides the price of a degree, pays for the 18 year old's choice to go to University. Why should someone pay for social housing if they've only lived in private property?

Hello mate.

Higher Education is a personal lifestyle choice that usually leads to a higher average wage during one's lifetime.

Having no where to live due to circumstance is not always a lifestyle choice.

(FYI - I am not a massive fan of the welfare state as a whole and would love a system in place where benefits would not be available unless people had paid in for a set amount of years, this apparently is not the right thing to say and usually leads to people shouting at me, so don't tell anyone).

Hello.

In my experience, the Conservative line of thinking, in opposition to the welfare state, repudiate philosophy such as fatalism and determinism, insisting that we are the ones who decided our future. In that case, social housing is not due to circumstance, as they can always get a job, like you or I.

Personally, I believe that the opportunity to be educated at an admissable price - however Mickey Mouse the degree is - is as important as a house over your head.
 

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