comiskey33
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Dalian Atkinson
under rated/over rated
You decide!
under rated/over rated
You decide!
I don't really get this argument. He's a completely different sort of player to Toure. He plays in the same position that Barry did but is a much better player. Of course in terms of pure footballing talent, he's not at the same level as Toure, Silva or De Bruyne, but then neither is Vinny, which is why he's a centre back. But in this position, he's undoubtedly been one of the best players in the world since he joined us. As a defensive midfielder, he's been much better than Toure ever was, but that's why Toure played further forward most of the time.This thread should have more controversy, given how being overrated works. So in the spirit of that I'll throw a player into the mix: Fernandinho.
Has he been a fantastic player? Of course. Is he a City legend? He should very much be considered one.
But you can still be brilliant and overrated (eg Scholes). Fernandinho just isn't on the level as the likes of Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne, or Kompany. He's a clever, disciplined, all rounded midfielder but he's neither a truly world class defender, or attacker, or midfield general like the players above. In the same way we loved De Jong for his efforts defensively in an attacking side, we really love Fern for his efforts in these super attacking teams he's been in (Plus his growth under Pep has been a great watch).
He was to Touré what De Jong was to Barry. Just as important as Yaya, but not as good.
To be clear, I'm not saying he's anything less than a great player. Just overrated.
Yes I know he's a different type of player to Touré. Just like De Jong was a different player to Barry.I don't really get this argument. He's a completely different sort of player to Toure. He plays in the same position that Barry did but is a much better player. Of course in terms of pure footballing talent, he's not at the same level as Toure, Silva or De Bruyne, but then neither is Vinny, which is why he's a centre back. But in this position, he's undoubtedly been one of the best players in the world since he joined us. As a defensive midfielder, he's been much better than Toure ever was, but that's why Toure played further forward most of the time.
Very few all round players like him. He’s been top quality since game his first match when we beat newcastle 4-0. Also just as consistent as Silva over the past six seasons and played a much a role in the past two titles than Kompany.With the exception of maybe De Jong and Kinkladze, the vast majority of players chosen are not rated that highly around here. How can you say Mcmanaman was overrated when he's universally despised round these parts as a player? I guess City legend Danny Mills was overrated too.
This thread should have more controversy, given how being overrated works. So in the spirit of that I'll throw a player into the mix: Fernandinho.
Has he been a fantastic player? Of course. Is he a City legend? He should very much be considered one.
But you can still be brilliant and overrated (eg Scholes). Fernandinho just isn't on the level as the likes of Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne, or Kompany. He's a clever, disciplined, all rounded midfielder but he's neither a truly world class defender, or attacker, or midfield general like the players above. In the same way we loved De Jong for his efforts defensively in an attacking side, we really love Fern for his efforts in these super attacking teams he's been in (Plus his growth under Pep has been a great watch).
He was to Touré what De Jong was to Barry. Just as important as Yaya, but not as good.
To be clear, I'm not saying he's anything less than a great player. Just overrated.
John bloody Macken likewise scored a worldy for PNE and was useless most of the time for usSteve Daley , without a doubt , he scored a worldy against the Rags whilst playing for Wolves and Swales stumped up a record fee for him whilst getting rid of Gary Owen and Peter Barnes under Allison , crazy times.
Great finish for the winner against Spurs in the 4-3 classic thoughJohn bloody Macken likewise scored a worldy for PNE and was useless most of the time for us