Mourhino is on his way to City.....

[Skashion]

If he'd kept his options at both clubs open I wouldn't be sat here making this point, but he didn't. He talked us down and talked them up. If he'd talked both of us up; options open and/or respect for your opponent. Talked us both down; mind games. However the schism between last night and the way he treated us shows only one of three things:
1. He knows we don't want him because Soriano and Txiki won't give him the nod.
2. He doesn't want to be here himself. He wants a club with "historic capital" i.e. not City.
3. Both of the above.

 

[Gary James]

Imo he's opening every door he can.

Why didn't he open the door to City then? Why, before our matches against him, didn't he say: Manchester City are in a good position, they have a brand new stadium which can hold 48k, full every week, they have tremendous potential, they are a sleeping giant who have been awoken by wealthy owners who respect their managers? Instead, he sat there and took the piss about how we have no "historic capital". If he's opening the doors in Trafford, he's closing them here. If he wanted to come here, even if he didn't believe the words coming out of his mouth, he'd lie and would have talked us up, and said the above. He's not coming. Get over it.

Because he was rejected in 2009

 

[Skashion]

Because he was rejected in 2009

Are you willing/able to go into more detail about it?

 

[NipHolmes]

As I said, leaving doors open. I've already said he most likely prefers United. Doesn't change the fact he's the ilk of manager we need.

I do genuinely believe it was a backhanded compliment though. I believe he was detaching himself from the media circus around the red card and I reckon he's both complimentary to United and also saying Madrid weren't good enough, which they weren't. Watch them v Barca and watch them last night. Two different teams right there based on performances.

Jose really can't win though. Some hang him if he'd have said he's the special one and deserved to go through, his name in mud in papers then or he plays the humble card and gets called a brown noser. There's about an inch wide line for Jose it seems.

 

[nijinskybell]

Imo he's opening every door he can.

Why didn't he open the door to City then? Why, before our matches against him, didn't he say: Manchester City are in a good position, they have a brand new stadium which can hold 48k, full every week, they have tremendous potential, they are a sleeping giant who have been awoken by wealthy owners who respect their managers? Instead, he sat there and took the piss about how we have no "historic capital". If he's opening the doors in Trafford, he's closing them here. If he wanted to come here, even if he didn't believe the words coming out of his mouth, he'd lie and would have talked us up, and said the above. He's not coming. Get over it.

Because he was rejected in 2009

There are some posters who still desperately want Mourinho and think he is interested in our current manager's job. Hopefully this statement will help to extinguish their hopes... and shut the door permanently on him.

As somebody else posted, if Mancini had behaved like Mourinho last night there would be all sorts of vicious comments today. Mourinho does nothing for anyone but himself - it's all about him as last night demonstrated. I've never seen a manager so (seemingly) unhappy with a great win. And what will that do for team spirit and confidence? His prime motivation is self engrandment - what were his motives last night?

 

[SWP's back]

Imo he's opening every door he can.

Why didn't he open the door to City then? Why, before our matches against him, didn't he say: Manchester City are in a good position, they have a brand new stadium which can hold 48k, full every week, they have tremendous potential, they are a sleeping giant who have been awoken by wealthy owners who respect their managers? Instead, he sat there and took the piss about how we have no "historic capital". If he's opening the doors in Trafford, he's closing them here. If he wanted to come here, even if he didn't believe the words coming out of his mouth, he'd lie and would have talked us up, and said the above. He's not coming. Get over it.

Because he was rejected in 2009

This seems to go against the perceived knowledge of billy, dave and TH Gary.

I thought he had rejected us?

 

[Gary James]

Because he was rejected in 2009

Are you willing/able to go into more detail about it?

This is what I said earlier in the thread and I also wrote about this a couple of years ago on BM:

I'm certain he wants to manage Utd. I was told quite clearly early in 2010 that City could have had him as manager in 2009 but his comments proved it would be a stepping stone (City chose Mancini and rejected Mourinho partly because of this) - best to stay away from him and let him get on with his own career plan.

All came out of interviews I did with various senior officials at the time - we talked about all the managers considered at time of Mancini appointment and it came out loud and clear. Mancini was the man who had a vision and wanted to be here because he could achieve something here - he had a long term vision. Others (and I've got this on tape but obviously it's from City's perspective not from any potential manager so may of course be total rubblish) did not see City as an opportunity in the same way - more a stepping stone to their real ambition. Understandably any team wants a manager who wants that job above all others and commits longer term.

EDIT: We specifically discussed Mourinho in Jan 2010. The interviews were with very senior MCFC officials. I did talk about this on BM in a thread when people were claiming Mourinho was coming some time ago. It was all going to appear in my book "The Journey" (which may never appear now sadly). This is part of a quote that was going in: "There had also been discussions with other prominent managers. One wanted to take more of a football director role while another wanted an extravagant salary and gave the impression he would only be here for a short period. We didn’t want either of those situations. We wanted someone who would commit and who would be a true coach, manager, call it what you will.”

 

[Anonymous]

Probably already been said but was shamelessly whoring himself to the rags last night.

 

[Churchill123]

So moron i o to rags next year and bringing ronaldo with him?

 

[without a dream]

Because he was rejected in 2009

Are you willing/able to go into more detail about it?

This is what I said earlier in the thread and I also wrote about this a couple of years ago on BM:

I'm certain he wants to manage Utd. I was told quite clearly early in 2010 that City could have had him as manager in 2009 but his comments proved it would be a stepping stone (City chose Mancini and rejected Mourinho partly because of this) - best to stay away from him and let him get on with his own career plan.

All came out of interviews I did with various senior officials at the time - we talked about all the managers considered at time of Mancini appointment and it came out loud and clear. Mancini was the man who had a vision and wanted to be here because he could achieve something here - he had a long term vision. Others (and I've got this on tape but obviously it's from City's perspective not from any potential manager so may of course be total rubblish) did not see City as an opportunity in the same way - more a stepping stone to their real ambition. Understandably any team wants a manager who wants that job above all others and commits longer term.

EDIT: We specifically discussed Mourinho in Jan 2010. The interviews were with very senior MCFC officials. I did talk about this on BM in a thread when people were claiming Mourinho was coming some time ago. It was all going to appear in my book "The Journey" (which may never appear now sadly). This is part of a quote that was going in: "There had also been discussions with other prominent managers. One wanted to take more of a football director role while another wanted an extravagant salary and gave the impression he would only be here for a short period. We didn’t want either of those situations. We wanted someone who would commit and who would be a true coach, manager, call it what you will.”

Fair enough. You could have saved about 300 pages of debate if you'd joined one of the earlier threads Gary ;)