Mourinho or Mancini

[larderland]

it really pisses me off when people say he should be given more time or hes a legend because hes achieved what he has. Do any of you realize how much money he spent? not as if he did it on a small budget, weve spent over a billion since 2008 hardly the most difficult thing in the world to do beating one of the worst united teams of all time in a league that's standard is getting worse year in year out. I like him but to think hes anything above an decent manager is hilarious. We might rate him cause lets be honest the first guy to get us a trophy was also going to be but you go around to supporters in Europe and England and ask if mancini is a great manager and they'll all say no,guaranteed.

Mourinho all day,get him and we would piss the league imo

 

[coleridge]

I think all managerial quirks are forgiven if you're winning (well, unless your managing Madrid). For me personally the PL was a no brainer. The squad we started last season with was ridiculously good and streets ahead of United's and Chelsea's. Europe was always going to be a challenge, and Mancini's challenge was to find a way to balance his squad to get the best out of them in both competitions. He failed last season but we were flying in the league so it sort of mitigated that at the time, but I think the unspoken feeling for some was "next season will have to be an improvement". We actually went backwards as I don't think we played nearly as well this season as we did against Bayern and Napoli last season.

Respect to those who feel Mancini will improve in the years to come and could one day be a managerial great up there alongside the likes of Mourinho. Personally I don't think City, in the phase we're at in our development, should be a testing groung for anyone. As you say MSP, we need results both domestically and in Europe now both for financial and profile reasons. Being Europe's richest club on paper but having zero CL pedigree will get us laughed at when we try to sign the best players.

OK. I understand the argument. But as my unqualified view is that Jose's going back to Chelsea, what then?

 

[The Flash]

I think all managerial quirks are forgiven if you're winning (well, unless your managing Madrid). For me personally the PL was a no brainer. The squad we started last season with was ridiculously good and streets ahead of United's and Chelsea's. Europe was always going to be a challenge, and Mancini's challenge was to find a way to balance his squad to get the best out of them in both competitions. He failed last season but we were flying in the league so it sort of mitigated that at the time, but I think the unspoken feeling for some was "next season will have to be an improvement". We actually went backwards as I don't think we played nearly as well this season as we did against Bayern and Napoli last season.

Respect to those who feel Mancini will improve in the years to come and could one day be a managerial great up there alongside the likes of Mourinho. Personally I don't think City, in the phase we're at in our development, should be a testing groung for anyone. As you say MSP, we need results both domestically and in Europe now both for financial and profile reasons. Being Europe's richest club on paper but having zero CL pedigree will get us laughed at when we try to sign the best players.

TBH Billy, I think last years title triumph came a year early in 'The Project'. What that's done is ramp up expectations, from everyone, and whilst last years CL exit was seen as a learning curve, now we're Champions, people think we should be immediately better equipped to handle the CL. I agree that the signings we made in the summer hardly represent a leap forward but I get the disctinct impression none, bar Nastasic, were at the top of Mancini's wish-list.

If there's a circus around Mancini, what on earth would it be like if Mourinho was at the club?

 

[Ragnarok]

I think all managerial quirks are forgiven if you're winning (well, unless your managing Madrid). For me personally the PL was a no brainer. The squad we started last season with was ridiculously good and streets ahead of United's and Chelsea's. Europe was always going to be a challenge, and Mancini's challenge was to find a way to balance his squad to get the best out of them in both competitions. He failed last season but we were flying in the league so it sort of mitigated that at the time, but I think the unspoken feeling for some was "next season will have to be an improvement". We actually went backwards as I don't think we played nearly as well this season as we did against Bayern and Napoli last season.

Respect to those who feel Mancini will improve in the years to come and could one day be a managerial great up there alongside the likes of Mourinho. Personally I don't think City, in the phase we're at in our development, should be a testing groung for anyone. As you say MSP, we need results both domestically and in Europe now both for financial and profile reasons. Being Europe's richest club on paper but having zero CL pedigree will get us laughed at when we try to sign the best players.

TBH Billy, I think last years title triumph came a year early in 'The Project'. What that's done is ramp up expectations, from everyone, and whilst last years CL exit was seen as a learning curve, now we're Champions, people think we should be immediately better equipped to handle the CL. I agree that the signings we made in the summer hardly represent a leap forward but I get the disctinct impression none, bar Nastasic, were at the top of Mancini's wish-list.

If there's a circus around Mancini, what on earth would it be like if Mourinho was at the club?

 

[Anonymous]

OK. I understand the argument. But as my unqualified view is that Jose's going back to Chelsea, what then?

Very simple for me. If City can convince Pep, Klopp, or Mourinho to join us they should do just that. If none of those three are gettable then Mancini stays in situ by default. My biggest fear about that is that because of our appalling showing in the CL this season, we're going to get another murderous group next season. I have fuck all faith in Mancini to get us through, and if he doesn't then you can repeat the tough group predicament ad infinitum ... along with the loss of revenues from that.

 

[MSP]

There's one more manager that can manage anyone based on his work in recent years but usually get overlooked due to not being in one of worlds most covered leagues - it's Shakhtar's Lucescu.

The job he has done at Shakhtar is fantastic. Not sure it would be easy for anyone to get him though, that Shakhtar owner takes care of his men and they look pretty happy there, most of them.

 

[coleridge]

OK. I understand the argument. But as my unqualified view is that Jose's going back to Chelsea, what then?

Very simple for me. If City can convince Pep, Klopp, or Mourinho to join us they should do just that. If none of those three are gettable then Mancini stays in situ by default. My biggest fear about that is that because of our appalling showing in the CL this season, we're going to get another murderous group next season. I have fuck all faith in Mancini to get us through, and if he doesn't then you can repeat the tough group predicament ad infinitum ... along with the loss of revenues from that.

We had about the toughest group possible and so I think you're being a little harsh. Having said that, the two Ajax games were poor and the late 2 at RM quite a disaster.

I can understand the disappointing domestic form but now it's time to kick on and go for the double. For me, no trophy = no Mancini come June. Just how it is for us now, CL money and trophies, nothing else will do. But it's impossible to say another manager would have done better, that's just guess work on your part, in my view.

 

[inchy14]

I think all managerial quirks are forgiven if you're winning (well, unless your managing Madrid). For me personally the PL was a no brainer. The squad we started last season with was ridiculously good and streets ahead of United's and Chelsea's. Europe was always going to be a challenge, and Mancini's challenge was to find a way to balance his squad to get the best out of them in both competitions. He failed last season but we were flying in the league so it sort of mitigated that at the time, but I think the unspoken feeling for some was "next season will have to be an improvement". We actually went backwards as I don't think we played nearly as well this season as we did against Bayern and Napoli last season.

Respect to those who feel Mancini will improve in the years to come and could one day be a managerial great up there alongside the likes of Mourinho. Personally I don't think City, in the phase we're at in our development, should be a testing groung for anyone. As you say MSP, we need results both domestically and in Europe now both for financial and profile reasons. Being Europe's richest club on paper but having zero CL pedigree will get us laughed at when we try to sign the best players.

So surely that rulesout your 2 favourites to take over;
Klopp never managed outside of Germany and Pep has never managed outside of Barcelona!
Mourinho is the only one who has been succesful in the premier league who will be available and would probably bring success but as i think he's an out and out twat i'd rather pass personally.
My own view is to give Mancini one more season after this regardless of us winning the prem or not, we can't win it every season no one can so apart from blowing up and finishing outside the top 2 i'd say one more year to prove he can continue to take us forward.
And these comments (not by you BS) that it was a poor United side last season, Mancini can only play them twice which he did and comfortably beat them both times.

 

[waspish]

I think all managerial quirks are forgiven if you're winning (well, unless your managing Madrid). For me personally the PL was a no brainer. The squad we started last season with was ridiculously good and streets ahead of United's and Chelsea's. Europe was always going to be a challenge, and Mancini's challenge was to find a way to balance his squad to get the best out of them in both competitions. He failed last season but we were flying in the league so it sort of mitigated that at the time, but I think the unspoken feeling for some was "next season will have to be an improvement". We actually went backwards as I don't think we played nearly as well this season as we did against Bayern and Napoli last season.

Respect to those who feel Mancini will improve in the years to come and could one day be a managerial great up there alongside the likes of Mourinho. Personally I don't think City, in the phase we're at in our development, should be a testing groung for anyone. As you say MSP, we need results both domestically and in Europe now both for financial and profile reasons. Being Europe's richest club on paper but having zero CL pedigree will get us laughed at when we try to sign the best players.

Pretty reasonable post, what sticking with Mancini for the next 2 seasons then go for Mourinho after his 2 year stunt at PSG I'm pretty certain that's where he'll end up for next season..

 

[Seosa]

weve spent over a billion since 2008

Who needs enemies when we've got Blues spewing shit like this?