St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:Millwallawayveteran1988 said:I am not a huge fan of offering your ticket to someone else so you get the loyalty points and they get a ticket. That in effect could be taking a ticket away from someone else who was waiting patiently in the queue, joined the cup scheme etc..
As it happens I think they are out on the demand for this one.
How are people getting there? Spike trip -200 ish, Thomas Cook 200 ish Singapore airlines 200 ish, Easy jet 150 ish Lufthansa 150 ish.
Thats 900 or so
How are the rest getting there?
We couldnt sell anfield last year when pushing for 4th!
Depends what level of importance loyalty points are.. I have offered my ticket genuinely because I cannot get there. I am not interested in the loyalty points. I have offered my ticket to someone who may miss out as they do not have enough points or are not on the cup scheme. Can't see the issue MV
Tonster said:St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:Millwallawayveteran1988 said:I am not a huge fan of offering your ticket to someone else so you get the loyalty points and they get a ticket. That in effect could be taking a ticket away from someone else who was waiting patiently in the queue, joined the cup scheme etc..
As it happens I think they are out on the demand for this one.
How are people getting there? Spike trip -200 ish, Thomas Cook 200 ish Singapore airlines 200 ish, Easy jet 150 ish Lufthansa 150 ish.
Thats 900 or so
How are the rest getting there?
We couldnt sell anfield last year when pushing for 4th!
Depends what level of importance loyalty points are.. I have offered my ticket genuinely because I cannot get there. I am not interested in the loyalty points. I have offered my ticket to someone who may miss out as they do not have enough points or are not on the cup scheme. Can't see the issue MV
The issue as MV states is that it potentially takes away a ticket from someone else in the queue and gives the ticket to someone who by rights shouldn't get one based on the criteria. If people can't go, don't get a ticket and it automatically goes to those next in the queue.
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:mcfcliam said:SWP's back said:You don't but the club want guaranteed money. Chill out.
So City are basically telling loyal supporters that, in this current financial climate, that if they don't guarantee the club money, without knowing the prices (CL), they can't get a ticket?
One of our lot has been watching city for 30+ years, has 6,400 loyalty points (went gold) and can't get a ticket for Munich or possibly other Euro aways because he didn't guarantee money to the club by not joining the scheme.
You tell him that this system is correct and he shouldn't qualify for a ticket.
Money, money, money...it's all fucking shit and City can shove it up their arse.
Liam-A question for you..Please can you specify what loyalty is? Its all a fucking myth.I was in the forces for 8 yrs. Got to maybe 5 games per season,but still shelled out for my season ticket without fail every year....Are you more loyal than me because you are older or have more points..Peoples circumstances are different and to say the club have got it wrong is a little naive.
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:Tonster said:St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:Depends what level of importance loyalty points are.. I have offered my ticket genuinely because I cannot get there. I am not interested in the loyalty points. I have offered my ticket to someone who may miss out as they do not have enough points or are not on the cup scheme. Can't see the issue MV
The issue as MV states is that it potentially takes away a ticket from someone else in the queue and gives the ticket to someone who by rights shouldn't get one based on the criteria. If people can't go, don't get a ticket and it automatically goes to those next in the queue.
in an ideal world then yes but we don't live in an ideal world. I will get a ticket but wont go. I have offered it to Eastland blue who doesn't have enough points. He is giving me face value. Not fair on the next person I agree but everyone knew if they didn't sign up people who did get priority..
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:DANURGHE82-
It is a genuine offer and have had plenty of interest. I am totally not bothered about loyalty points. My boy who is 11 is only gold and not on any of the cup schemes.He has 2010 pts. We go to all games together that we can get a ticket for away (as I said,Wigan,Villa,Blackburn) If I was that arsed I would have put him on all 3 schemes especially at the prices but no point for him.
The ticket is available as I said. Why let it go to waste when someone may need one ticket and I fall into the criteria to enable someone to go.True I get the points but that is not my doing that has always been the case. I know people who did the cup offer last year where you got 100pts per ticket(correct me if I am wrong) and didn't even attend. I will purchase collect and then arrange handover of ticket at next home game...
The club clearly stated members in the cup scheme get preference-No hiding that.
mcfcliam said:St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:mcfcliam said:So City are basically telling loyal supporters that, in this current financial climate, that if they don't guarantee the club money, without knowing the prices (CL), they can't get a ticket?
One of our lot has been watching city for 30+ years, has 6,400 loyalty points (went gold) and can't get a ticket for Munich or possibly other Euro aways because he didn't guarantee money to the club by not joining the scheme.
You tell him that this system is correct and he shouldn't qualify for a ticket.
Money, money, money...it's all fucking shit and City can shove it up their arse.
Liam-A question for you..Please can you specify what loyalty is? Its all a fucking myth.I was in the forces for 8 yrs. Got to maybe 5 games per season,but still shelled out for my season ticket without fail every year....Are you more loyal than me because you are older or have more points..Peoples circumstances are different and to say the club have got it wrong is a little naive.
I don't really have a meaning for it and I wasn't really saying that...I was just saying that this person clearly should qualify for a ticket even though he hasn't joined the scheme.
Now I could turn this question on you...you were in the forces for 8 years and during that time, could you have said to someone (no one in particular) who had gone week in week out that you deserve a ticket as much as he did?
You could say 'yeah, I do, my circumstances are different so I deserve a ticket' and he'd have said 'well I've done every single game, so I deserve one more than you do'.
Everyone has different circumstances, as you said but it's certainly not naive to think someone with 6,400 points and no scheme deserves a Munich ticket.
Ok there's the door.mcfcliam said:SWP's back said:You don't but the club want guaranteed money. Chill out.UweGoater said:I didnt wanna be in the cup scheme due to fact of money, i will be at all the games but for example the napoli tickets came out last week, ive not had a penny for 3 weeks, ive just been paid and ready to buy!
I dont know why i need to explain my money situation to you!
So u my friend can go and fuck yourself!
So City are basically telling loyal supporters that, in this current financial climate, that if they don't guarantee the club money, without knowing the prices (CL), they can't get a ticket?
One of our lot has been watching city for 30+ years, has 6,400 loyalty points (went gold) and can't get a ticket for Munich or possibly other Euro aways because he didn't guarantee money to the club by not joining the scheme.
You tell him that this system is correct and he shouldn't qualify for a ticket.
Money, money, money...it's all fucking shit and City can shove it up their arse.
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:DANURGHE82-
It is a genuine offer and have had plenty of interest. I am totally not bothered about loyalty points. My boy who is 11 is only gold and not on any of the cup schemes.He has 2010 pts. We go to all games together that we can get a ticket for away (as I said,Wigan,Villa,Blackburn) If I was that arsed I would have put him on all 3 schemes especially at the prices but no point for him.
The ticket is available as I said. Why let it go to waste when someone may need one ticket and I fall into the criteria to enable someone to go.True I get the points but that is not my doing that has always been the case. I know people who did the cup offer last year where you got 100pts per ticket(correct me if I am wrong) and didn't even attend. I will purchase collect and then arrange handover of ticket at next home game...
The club clearly stated members in the cup scheme get preference-No hiding that.
Because lets say the top 3000 fans on a loyalty points basis all decide not to go.
They all sell their tickets to whoever regardless of points etc.
All 3000 then get more points and so pull further away from the rest.
Fan 3001 is sitting waiting for the criteria to go down to his level. It doesnt, he misses out whilst someone gets one who might go to 3 games a season.
I know it goes on but i dont particularly agree with it.
I am sure your offer is very genuine and well meaning but in general thats what sales criteria is for, to give people lower down the ladder a chance to get a ticket and then build their own points up. What you do and what others do stops that happening.
No one "deserves" as in they "have a god given right to one" no.mcfcliam said:St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:mcfcliam said:So City are basically telling loyal supporters that, in this current financial climate, that if they don't guarantee the club money, without knowing the prices (CL), they can't get a ticket?
One of our lot has been watching city for 30+ years, has 6,400 loyalty points (went gold) and can't get a ticket for Munich or possibly other Euro aways because he didn't guarantee money to the club by not joining the scheme.
You tell him that this system is correct and he shouldn't qualify for a ticket.
Money, money, money...it's all fucking shit and City can shove it up their arse.
Liam-A question for you..Please can you specify what loyalty is? Its all a fucking myth.I was in the forces for 8 yrs. Got to maybe 5 games per season,but still shelled out for my season ticket without fail every year....Are you more loyal than me because you are older or have more points..Peoples circumstances are different and to say the club have got it wrong is a little naive.
I don't really have a meaning for it and I wasn't really saying that...I was just saying that this person clearly should qualify for a ticket even though he hasn't joined the scheme.
Now I could turn this question on you...you were in the forces for 8 years and during that time, could you have said to someone (no one in particular) who had gone week in week out that you deserve a ticket as much as he did?
You could say 'yeah, I do, my circumstances are different so I deserve a ticket' and he'd have said 'well I've done every single game, so I deserve one more than you do'.
Everyone has different circumstances, as you said but it's certainly not naive to think someone with 6,400 points and no scheme deserves a Munich ticket.
allan harper said:15 warnings 2 bans and a meet up outside Mary Ds
SWP's back said:No one "deserves" as in they "have a god given right to one" no.mcfcliam said:St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:Liam-A question for you..Please can you specify what loyalty is? Its all a fucking myth.I was in the forces for 8 yrs. Got to maybe 5 games per season,but still shelled out for my season ticket without fail every year....Are you more loyal than me because you are older or have more points..Peoples circumstances are different and to say the club have got it wrong is a little naive.
I don't really have a meaning for it and I wasn't really saying that...I was just saying that this person clearly should qualify for a ticket even though he hasn't joined the scheme.
Now I could turn this question on you...you were in the forces for 8 years and during that time, could you have said to someone (no one in particular) who had gone week in week out that you deserve a ticket as much as he did?
You could say 'yeah, I do, my circumstances are different so I deserve a ticket' and he'd have said 'well I've done every single game, so I deserve one more than you do'.
Everyone has different circumstances, as you said but it's certainly not naive to think someone with 6,400 points and no scheme deserves a Munich ticket.
The club specified priority (that's the key word here) to those on the scheme.
If you're so upset for this guy, let him use your ticket, you're on the CL scheme you say.
It's not. We had a 70odd page thread thrashing this point out to the point of boredom in April.Soulboy said:If you sign up to the Cup Scheme and get preferential treatement, how is that diffrent to signing up to a season ticket and getting priority?
Just curious.
I was quoting Liam, not you mate.St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:SWP's back said:No one "deserves" as in they "have a god given right to one" no.mcfcliam said:I don't really have a meaning for it and I wasn't really saying that...I was just saying that this person clearly should qualify for a ticket even though he hasn't joined the scheme.
Now I could turn this question on you...you were in the forces for 8 years and during that time, could you have said to someone (no one in particular) who had gone week in week out that you deserve a ticket as much as he did?
You could say 'yeah, I do, my circumstances are different so I deserve a ticket' and he'd have said 'well I've done every single game, so I deserve one more than you do'.
Everyone has different circumstances, as you said but it's certainly not naive to think someone with 6,400 points and no scheme deserves a Munich ticket.
The club specified priority (that's the key word here) to those on the scheme.
If you're so upset for this guy, let him use your ticket, you're on the CL scheme you say.
Not upset SWP - It's already been offered elsewhere. I agree with you,ok £25 going out for everyone at the end of the moneth may not be ideal but if it was me and I knew I was going whatever I would have signed up 100%
Scotty76 said:And the tickets wont get to everyones houses till the morning of the game. Because they fuck about at the ticket office, writing those fuckin letters they been sending!
SWP's back said:Ok there's the door.mcfcliam said:SWP's back said:You don't but the club want guaranteed money. Chill out.
So City are basically telling loyal supporters that, in this current financial climate, that if they don't guarantee the club money, without knowing the prices (CL), they can't get a ticket?
One of our lot has been watching city for 30+ years, has 6,400 loyalty points (went gold) and can't get a ticket for Munich or possibly other Euro aways because he didn't guarantee money to the club by not joining the scheme.
You tell him that this system is correct and he shouldn't qualify for a ticket.
Money, money, money...it's all fucking shit and City can shove it up their arse.
City aren't telling anyone they can't have a ticket. They are telling people that those guaranteeing their money on the scheme get priority. You we're told all this at the time the semi criteria came out.
Of course they will. Yes..mcfcliam said:SWP's back said:Ok there's the door.mcfcliam said:So City are basically telling loyal supporters that, in this current financial climate, that if they don't guarantee the club money, without knowing the prices (CL), they can't get a ticket?
One of our lot has been watching city for 30+ years, has 6,400 loyalty points (went gold) and can't get a ticket for Munich or possibly other Euro aways because he didn't guarantee money to the club by not joining the scheme.
You tell him that this system is correct and he shouldn't qualify for a ticket.
Money, money, money...it's all fucking shit and City can shove it up their arse.
City aren't telling anyone they can't have a ticket. They are telling people that those guaranteeing their money on the scheme get priority. You we're told all this at the time the semi criteria came out.
There's a difference between not having priority and having no chance of a ticket at all...as this criteria states, they are only selling to people on the scheme.
If this sells out before further criteria, then the club will deem it as a success and do the same for the Villarreal and Napoli.
SWP's back said:Of course they will. Yes..mcfcliam said:SWP's back said:Ok there's the door.
City aren't telling anyone they can't have a ticket. They are telling people that those guaranteeing their money on the scheme get priority. You we're told all this at the time the semi criteria came out.
There's a difference between not having priority and having no chance of a ticket at all...as this criteria states, they are only selling to people on the scheme.
If this sells out before further criteria, then the club will deem it as a success and do the same for the Villarreal and Napoli.
Look, you're getting confused, the club are giving priority to the scheme members. If it doesn't sell out once it's been through all of them, then it goes to non scheme members on high points.
That's kinda how priority works.
Who do you think it will go to if it doesn't sell out to those on the cup scheme? You think we will send them back without offering them to City fans?mcfcliam said:SWP's back said:Of course they will. Yes..mcfcliam said:There's a difference between not having priority and having no chance of a ticket at all...as this criteria states, they are only selling to people on the scheme.
If this sells out before further criteria, then the club will deem it as a success and do the same for the Villarreal and Napoli.
Look, you're getting confused, the club are giving priority to the scheme members. If it doesn't sell out once it's been through all of them, then it goes to non scheme members on high points.
That's kinda how priority works.
Got a link to this?
SWP's back said:Who do you think it will go to if it doesn't sell out to those on the cup scheme? You think we will send them back without offering them to City fans?mcfcliam said:SWP's back said:Of course they will. Yes..
Look, you're getting confused, the club are giving priority to the scheme members. If it doesn't sell out once it's been through all of them, then it goes to non scheme members on high points.
That's kinda how priority works.
Got a link to this?
What an absurd idea.
what was wrong with the wembley scheme - 8000 points and/or cup scheme , 7000 points and /or cup scheme etc , at least this way cup schemers get first dibs along with loyal fans who either havent or cant sign up to itSWP's back said:Of course they will. Yes..mcfcliam said:SWP's back said:Ok there's the door.
City aren't telling anyone they can't have a ticket. They are telling people that those guaranteeing their money on the scheme get priority. You we're told all this at the time the semi criteria came out.
There's a difference between not having priority and having no chance of a ticket at all...as this criteria states, they are only selling to people on the scheme.
If this sells out before further criteria, then the club will deem it as a success and do the same for the Villarreal and Napoli.
Look, you're getting confused, the club are giving priority to the scheme members. If it doesn't sell out once it's been through all of them, then it goes to non scheme members on high points.
That's kinda how priority works.