Nadim Zahawi

[lloydie]

It appears based on evidence posted he tried to avoid. What he appears to have ended up doing is evading. I guess it’s like a manslaughter charge…he didn’t intend to but he did. Although always hard to know how much he really did intend to.

if he had intended to evade he would be facing criminal proceedings. You can’t just say “oh ok I’ll pay it” if you’ve been busted, that’s not how it works.

Oh yes it is. If there's a plausible denial, you're the holder of high office and HMRC want's the thing to go away, they'll take the money (with £2m penalties apparently) and avoid litigation costs and hassle.
FFS, he created a company in tax free Gib, hid income and lied about it.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Oh yes it is. If there's a plausible denial, you're the holder of high office and HMRC want's the thing to go away, they'll take the money (with £2m penalties apparently) and avoid litigation costs and hassle.
FFS, he created a company in tax free Gib, hid income and lied about it.

Surely this was 'an oversight'! Like all those skunks come out with when they're caught Rag-handed.

 

[metalblue]

Oh yes it is. If there's a plausible denial, you're the holder of high office and HMRC want's the thing to go away, they'll take the money (with £2m penalties apparently) and avoid litigation costs and hassle.
FFS, he created a company in tax free Gib, hid income and lied about it.

Did he hide it and lie about it though? If he did I don’t see there being any plausible denial. I do agree if it’s not clear cut HMRC may well have said take the money but that only says it’s not clear cut.

He won’t release the details which will just leave people to make up their own minds. You think he evaded deliberately, I think he didn’t do it deliberately. We both think he’s a sly **** who I wouldn’t trust as far as I could throw him.

 

[lloydie]

Did he hide it and lie about it though? If he did I don’t see there being any plausible denial. I do agree if it’s not clear cut HMRC may well have said take the money but that only says it’s not clear cut.

He won’t release the details which will just leave people to make up their own minds. You think he evaded deliberately, I think he didn’t do it deliberately. We both think he’s a sly **** who I wouldn’t trust as far as I could throw him.

I posted this earlier, read it, if you're still of that opinion then I've got a nice bridge you might be interested in...

Nadhim Zahawi - the whole story

UPDATE: this was written on 19 January, and I haven't updated it. We subsequently learned (thanks to the Guardian) that Zahawi had been charged a large penalty. And we now know, thanks to Sir Laurie Magnus, that HMRC started investigating Zahawi well before the start of this timeline, and that

www.taxpolicy.org.uk

I understand your desire to defend anything Tory so I'll leave it at that, I'm no match for your mental gymnastics.

 

[metalblue]

It is complicated and allows for all kinds of manoeuvres, legal or otherwise. It is, in fact, as variable system as the offside and handball laws in football.

Absolutely correct. The “schemes” available to avoid tax are plentiful, the problem is the legislation is often well intended but people use it out of context for their own gain. There is the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. Here he clearly broke the spirit of the law, only he knows if he broke the letter of it.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Did he hide it and lie about it though? If he did I don’t see there being any plausible denial. I do agree if it’s not clear cut HMRC may well have said take the money but that only says it’s not clear cut.

He won’t release the details which will just leave people to make up their own minds. You think he evaded deliberately, I think he didn’t do it deliberately. We both think he’s a sly **** who I wouldn’t trust as far as I could throw him.

Assuming it's the same matter, it was reported last year that on the same day that Zahawi was due share value from selling YouGov, a company was set up in Gibraltar headed by a family member with a capital value of exactly the same amount as he was due.

There was nothing accidental about it, but it may just have been something that was hard to prove for certain due to the way the laws work. Probably also that he didn't want the details in court and to be crossexamined, although past evidence suggests that he may have broken the record for use of 'er' in testimony.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

It appears based on evidence posted he tried to avoid. What he appears to have ended up doing is evading. I guess it’s like a manslaughter charge…he didn’t intend to but he did. Although always hard to know how much he really did intend to.

if he had intended to evade he would be facing criminal proceedings. You can’t just say “oh ok I’ll pay it” if you’ve been busted, that’s not how it works.

It does if you are a fucking Tory minister.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

I posted this earlier, read it, if you're still of that opinion then I've got a nice bridge you might be interested in...

Nadhim Zahawi - the whole story

UPDATE: this was written on 19 January, and I haven't updated it. We subsequently learned (thanks to the Guardian) that Zahawi had been charged a large penalty. And we now know, thanks to Sir Laurie Magnus, that HMRC started investigating Zahawi well before the start of this timeline, and that

www.taxpolicy.org.uk

I understand your desire to defend anything Tory so I'll leave it at that, I'm no match for your mental gymnastics.

Fiddling fucks, nothing more.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Note to anyone doing their self assessment for the 31st - remember don't overlook that near £30m worth of income you may have forgotten about it will only cost you nearly £3m in penalties down the line...... and when you go to the shops in the morning and shoot a video of yourself please keep your seatbelt on.

Finally a note from Mr Raab - the sea is no longer closed - its just January and fucking cold

 

[Ric]

It appears based on evidence posted he tried to avoid. What he appears to have ended up doing is evading. I guess it’s like a manslaughter charge…he didn’t intend to but he did. Although always hard to know how much he really did intend to.

Give over.