Nasri [Merged] continued.

[Blue Haze]

No Fancy Mathematics needed, if Nasri plays against Udinese and they still go out then Arsenal will lose £30m CL money PLUS £22m transfer fee. A whooping £52m hit. Sell him and the lose of CL will only cost £8m (£30m - £22m).

Arsenal's money men are not that stupid surely.

If Arsenal loses, he won't be cup-tied.

How does that work mate?

From what I've heard (I'm no expert)

If Nasri plays, he will only be cup-tied if Arsenal qualify for the CL. Since this is just a qualifier and not the competition proper, he wouldn't be cup-tied if they failed to qualify for the CL.

It's so that clubs can properly plan their finances for the year. Obviously a 30m payment makes a huge difference on a buy/sell decision.

 

[Arsene]

Lol if he is in their champions league squad. Maybe for the best if he is willing to play he obviously doesn't want to come. Can't imagine arsenal fans are going to be that happy especially if he ends up at the rags or us for nothing next summer !

If he's in the squad and plays we won't sign him simple as that. If they loose the game and go out anyway there are going to be some questions asked from all quarters I would imagine.

the squad was written before the first game....just a list you hand in so they know the players you could use

 

[The Future's Blue]

No Fancy Mathematics needed, if Nasri plays against Udinese and they still go out then Arsenal will lose £30m CL money PLUS £22m transfer fee. A whooping £52m hit. Sell him and the lose of CL will only cost £8m (£30m - £22m).

Arsenal's money men are not that stupid surely.

If Arsenal loses, he won't be cup-tied.

How does that work mate?

So, just to confirm, he's not cup-tied?

 

[squirter99]

He will be cup-tied. The whole point of the rule is so that if you get knocked out of the cup you can't then go and join a club that's still in it. Whether it's a qualifier or not it doesn't matter (it's just another word for an earlier round), if Nasri plays and gets knocked out, then he can't play in it.

 

[zangatangring]

If Arsenal loses, he won't be cup-tied.

How does that work mate?

From what I've heard (I'm no expert)

If Nasri plays, he will only be cup-tied if Arsenal qualify for the CL. Since this is just a qualifier and not the competition proper, he wouldn't be cup-tied if they failed to qualify for the CL.

It's so that clubs can properly plan their finances for the year. Obviously a 30m payment makes a huge difference on a buy/sell decision.

Thanks!

 

[Arsene]

He will be cup-tied. The whole point of the rule is so that if you get knocked out of the cup you can't then go and join a club that's still in it. Whether it's a qualifier or not it doesn't matter (it's just another word for an earlier round), if Nasri plays and gets knocked out, then he can't play in it.

if nasri plays and we go out....he will not be cup tied

 

[Manchester_City_Blue]

 

[Ronnie the Rep]

If you look on arsenal mania 99% of the fans want him gone so they can get the money and sign the replacements they desperately need.

A fair few want him sold even if the money is not spent. They don't want him running down his contract and going for nothing that's for sure.

Pm mate

 

[mancunial]

Fascinating stuff this transfer:

After first leg Arsenal 1 Udinese 0 (arsenal have 60% chance of going through with or without Nasri)

If transfer is £22 million and CL worth £30 million by losing in the CL QF then:

1. Nasri plays vs Udinese and Arsenal go through: £30 million x 60% = £18 Mill

2. Nasri doesn't play and Arsenal go through: £52 million x 60% = £31.2 Mill

3. Nasri plays vs Udinese and Arsenal goes out: £0 million x 40% = £0 Mill

4. Nasri doesn't play and Arsenal goes out: £22 million x 40% = £8.8 Mill


The two options whereby Nasri plays = £18 million/2 = £9 million
The two options whereby Nasri doesn't play = £40 million/2 = £20 million

So that says that Arsenal should only play Nasri if they believe they will still get in excess of £11 million from City (or another club) if Nasri is cup tied.

NB: The above might be wrong but it was fun to calculate anyway!

Superb that

 

[Andouble]

does Arsenal train at their base before jetting to Italy tomorrow, or do they leave for Italy tomorrow morning?

Just meet in the middle with these agent fees FFS, if he plays tomorrow it is going to get nasty.