Nasri

[Oyster28catcher]

Re: 20m for Nasri

I absolutely despise the idea of paying large chunks of wages on players contracts when they are at other clubs. I'd rather just let them rot in the reserves with us as a lesson. The thought of us paying the wages of a Spurs player makes my blood boil, even if he is shit. Pure lunacy.

Employment law.

Nothing we can do about it unfortunately.

Imo the best thing to do is play him centrally in midfield as cover for Yaya or Silva. He's wasted on the right wing and Milner shows him up.

It's bad scouting this purchase. Nothing like Alexis Sanchez.

Not making this a Mancini out bollocks thread but this is another example of bad buying at high price and the club suffers again.

Nasri can do better and will do better. Just needs to be played in position. If not we sell and lose out. What else can we do? The present situation isn't a good one.

Nasri is quality but hasn't gelled at all this season, may be a much better player next season. BUT if possible, he'd do better elsewhere.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Re: 20m for Nasri

I cannot for the life of me believe that anyone is going to be mug enough to pay £20m for Nasri, with those wages. He's enormously overpriced.

I think we will do well to sell him at all, unless we take about £10-12m and he accepts a big paycut.

Like I said, we are stuck with him.

And I'm sorry to bring it around to this (no, I really am) but Mancini needs to take a fair share of the blame for it.

He was desperate for Nasri and put serious pressure on Cook and Marwood to beat United to his signature.

It was silly to then have a pop in public, his value has been plummeting as it was.

We have been pissing away money.

This whole forum was deperate for nasri also
It had 1000 page threads frothing at the mouth for mancini to go and get him

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Re: 20m for Nasri

Mancini did same with Adebayor. It's best to talk up a player to the sell not talk down. How many salesmen knock your door and says 'this isn't all that great but do you want to buy it?'.


Club should gag Mancini about stuff like this. Stupidity.

A point my mate and I were discussing when we analysed Mancini's Guardian interview. Why on earth talk down a player you are looking to offload? It's far from the first time as you say. Tevez and Adebayor spring to mind. I actually thought that The Balotelli transfer bore the hallmarks of the experience of Soriano and Begiristain, where the club, mainly through Mancini, feigned a lack of interest in selling him right up to the point he left. I thought then "Ah, they've got into his ribs about this." I thought it was a good thing that we were finally learning how to get better value both ways on the transfer market.

I just don't think Mancini thinks his words through properly, or maybe he just doesn't really care.

 

[OB1]

Re: 20m for Nasri

I cannot for the life of me believe that anyone is going to be mug enough to pay £20m for Nasri, with those wages. He's enormously overpriced.

I think we will do well to sell him at all, unless we take about £10-12m and he accepts a big paycut.

Something about Samir Nasri tells me he's cut from the same self-interested cloth as Mr Adebayor, and the chances of him taking a pay cut (without City subsidising his wages) are roughly the same as mine of being teleported to the planet of the nymphomaniacs within the next 24 hours

You still wouldn't pull.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Re: 20m for Nasri

I cannot for the life of me believe that anyone is going to be mug enough to pay £20m for Nasri, with those wages. He's enormously overpriced.

I think we will do well to sell him at all, unless we take about £10-12m and he accepts a big paycut.

Like I said, we are stuck with him.

And I'm sorry to bring it around to this (no, I really am) but Mancini needs to take a fair share of the blame for it.

He was desperate for Nasri and put serious pressure on Cook and Marwood to beat United to his signature.

It was silly to then have a pop in public, his value has been plummeting as it was.

We have been pissing away money.

This whole forum was deperate for nasri also
It had 1000 page threads frothing at the mouth for mancini to go and get him

We also wanted Alexis Sanchez and Nasri was the back-up plan.

A lot of the frothing in the end seemed to be also to stop United getting him?

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Re: 20m for Nasri

Like I said, we are stuck with him.

And I'm sorry to bring it around to this (no, I really am) but Mancini needs to take a fair share of the blame for it.

He was desperate for Nasri and put serious pressure on Cook and Marwood to beat United to his signature.

It was silly to then have a pop in public, his value has been plummeting as it was.

We have been pissing away money.

This whole forum was deperate for nasri also
It had 1000 page threads frothing at the mouth for mancini to go and get him

We also wanted Alexis Sanchez and Nasri was the back-up plan.

A lot of the frothing in the end seemed to be also to stop United getting him?

True on the united point
I must admit i along with many thought he was the last piece of the jigsaw back then when he signed
Is it true that he is fucking off back to london on every day off?

 

[OB1]

Re: 20m for Nasri

I absolutely despise the idea of paying large chunks of wages on players contracts when they are at other clubs. I'd rather just let them rot in the reserves with us as a lesson. The thought of us paying the wages of a Spurs player makes my blood boil, even if he is shit. Pure lunacy.

Employment law.

Nothing we can do about it unfortunately.

Imo the best thing to do is play him centrally in midfield as cover for Yaya or Silva. He's wasted on the right wing and Milner shows him up.

It's bad scouting this purchase. Nothing like Alexis Sanchez.

Not making this a Mancini out bollocks thread but this is another example of bad buying at high price and the club suffers again.

Nasri can do better and will do better. Just needs to be played in position. If not we sell and lose out. What else can we do? The present situation isn't a good one.

At least Nasri has: he's still top of the pile for pass completion and only Nasri and Tevez set up more chances than him, so there is scope to make better use of him.

 

[NipHolmes]

Re: 20m for Nasri

Mancini did same with Adebayor. It's best to talk up a player to the sell not talk down. How many salesmen knock your door and says 'this isn't all that great but do you want to buy it?'.


Club should gag Mancini about stuff like this. Stupidity.

A point my mate and I were discussing when we analysed Mancini's Guardian interview. Why on earth talk down a player you are looking to offload? It's far from the first time as you say. Tevez and Adebayor spring to mind. I actually thought that The Balotelli transfer bore the hallmarks of the experience of Soriano and Begiristain, where the club, mainly through Mancini, feigned a lack of interest in selling him right up to the point he left. I thought then "Ah, they've got into his ribs about this." I thought it was a good thing that we were finally learning how to get better value both ways on the transfer market.

I just don't think Mancini thinks his words through properly, or maybe he just doesn't really care.

I agree.

I said so in an Adebayor thread ages ago.

As you say the Balo sale was done quite well really. When selling anything you hype product and state its positives rather than negatives. Common sense really.

If we are too sell then Bobby needs to help us to help him. Hype player and start in preferred positions. Talk him up and sell for good price in summer which will boost coffers to then spend from. Not rocket science is it?

For me I look at Nasri and see a player going through the motions, on the pitch he absolves himself from pressure by passing the ball on rather than making stuff happen. Dembele does his job and cost far less and is paid much less.

Only way forward is to go back to the drawing board. Not playing and still picking up high wages isn't an option.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Re: 20m for Nasri

We were warned by Gooners that he was what he has proved to be - inconsistent and carefree - typical MOTD player.

And many on here also suggested at the time he was a luxury not needed.

We needed,and still do,a real winger with real desire.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Re: 20m for Nasri

This whole forum was deperate for nasri also
It had 1000 page threads frothing at the mouth for mancini to go and get him

We also wanted Alexis Sanchez and Nasri was the back-up plan.

A lot of the frothing in the end seemed to be also to stop United getting him?

True on the united point
I must admit i along with many thought he was the last piece of the jigsaw back then when he signed
Is it true that he is fucking off back to london on every day off?

Sanchez would have cost us a lot more than Nasri, so we actually missed a curve ball there!

Re Nasri, when you earn hundreds of thousands of pounds a week, I just don't really see it as a major problem fucking off down to London whenever the mood takes.

Same were it Paris.

Money solves a lot of logistical problems. Manchester becomes a small place after a while, once your money has afforded you all it has to offer.

I think this also became the case for Mario. If I finished training at 2pm and could be in London eating dinner at a top eaterie by six, back in bed for 11, why not?

I have friends in the States who travel two hours for a night out at their favourite diner. Crazy, I know!

 

[Danamy]

Re: 20m for Nasri

I cannot for the life of me believe that anyone is going to be mug enough to pay £20m for Nasri, with those wages. He's enormously overpriced.

I think we will do well to sell him at all, unless we take about £10-12m and he accepts a big paycut.

Like I said, we are stuck with him.

And I'm sorry to bring it around to this (no, I really am) but Mancini needs to take a fair share of the blame for it.

He was desperate for Nasri and put serious pressure on Cook and Marwood to beat United to his signature.

It was silly to then have a pop in public, his value has been plummeting as it was.

We have been pissing away money.

This whole forum was deperate for nasri also
It had 1000 page threads frothing at the mouth for mancini to go and get him

Nasri best and only position is in the Silva role, it's no coincidence that his best game for us this season was West Ham away when Silva didn't play, he's back up at best.

Just to level things up a bit, there were many on the forum that didn't want RVP because of his age and his history on injuries, just saying!

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Re: 20m for Nasri

Like I said, we are stuck with him.

And I'm sorry to bring it around to this (no, I really am) but Mancini needs to take a fair share of the blame for it.

He was desperate for Nasri and put serious pressure on Cook and Marwood to beat United to his signature.

It was silly to then have a pop in public, his value has been plummeting as it was.

We have been pissing away money.

This whole forum was deperate for nasri also
It had 1000 page threads frothing at the mouth for mancini to go and get him

Nasri best and only position is in the Silva role, it's no coincidence that his best game for us this season was West Ham away when Silva didn't play, he's back up at best.

Just to level things up a bit, there were many on the forum that didn't want RVP because of his age and his history on injuries, just saying!

Your right thats a good point regarding rvp,fair play
Oh and tolmie your spot on with the sanchez post.
Lets just hope we can shift him in the summer.

 

[mgreenz97]

Re: 20m for Nasri

The problem is that Nasri isn't being played in the right way.
The reason Nasri stood out so much in his last season at Arsenal was because he was being played in a position that allowed him to score goals, now he's being played as a playmaker. Nasri can still perform in the Silva role, but not very often as it's not his typical play style. His best position would be in the CAM/CF role behind the main striker, but I feel we have better players for the position.
£20m would be okay, but I know that he'll start performing again when he leaves, like Mario has.


He's still a lazy twat though.

 

[Churchill123]

Re: 20m for Nasri

Like I said, we are stuck with him.

And I'm sorry to bring it around to this (no, I really am) but Mancini needs to take a fair share of the blame for it.

He was desperate for Nasri and put serious pressure on Cook and Marwood to beat United to his signature.

It was silly to then have a pop in public, his value has been plummeting as it was.

We have been pissing away money.

This whole forum was deperate for nasri also
It had 1000 page threads frothing at the mouth for mancini to go and get him

Nasri best and only position is in the Silva role, it's no coincidence that his best game for us this season was West Ham away when Silva didn't play, he's back up at best.

Just to level things up a bit, there were many on the forum that didn't want RVP because of his age and his history on injuries, just saying!

Went to that game and Hmmm not sure if i can remember much of him, i'll take your word for it.. All i can remember is us battering them and not being able to hit a barn door and get the goal we needed... however Samir may have been the reason we had such dominance?

 

[1.618034]

Re: 20m for Nasri

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2013/02/27/3783710/manchester-city-willing-to-take-7m-hit-on-nasri?source=breakingnews&ICID=HP_BN_3

Manchester City are willing to listen to offers for Samir Nasri this summer, Goal.com understands.

The Premier League champions value the Frenchman at around the £18 million mark and are ready to cash in on him if their asking price is met.
As revealed by Goal.com in December, Nasri is unsettled in Manchester and wants to leave the Premier League champions, with a return to London his preferred move.

Nasri joined City from Arsenal for around £25m in August 2011 but City are believed to be willing to sell the attacking midfielder at a considerable loss in order to clear his £175,000-a-week wages off the Etihad Stadium wage bill.

Interested clubs are set to be quoted a figure of around £18m for the 25-year-old in the forthcoming transfer window.

Manager Roberto Mancini used an interview with The Guardian last week to express his frustration with some of his players this season, name-checking Nasri and Joe Hart.

"I think Samir has fantastic qualities," Mancini said. "With his quality, he should always play well. Every game he could be the difference. A player of this quality could be one of the best players in Europe. But it's not happening.

"Sometimes a player thinks it's enough what they did the year before and doesn't understand that every day they should improve.

"If you are a top player you know you can improve until the last day of your career but sometimes you get players who think it is not important to work and this is their worst mistake.

"Samir can do better than this year. He is a top player but he has not been playing at his level.”

Mancini then added: "You win the title, then you think it's enough to play 50 per cent and you don't arrive the next year."

Nasri was considering his future even before Mancini's public attack but only a small elite of clubs have the financial power to offer the player an escape route from Manchester.

Goal.com revealed earlier this month that wealthy Monaco are keen to lure Nasri and his team-mate Carlos Tevez to France this summer.

The ambitious Ligue 2 leaders, who are expected to be promoted to Ligue 1, are bankrolled by Russian billionaire Dmitry Rybolovlev and are able to offer tax-free salaries in order to tempt top players to the principality.

Please. Someone take him.

I'd be happy with £18m+ for the cheese eating surrender monkey.

If he needs a lift to the airport I'm available.

 

[Danamy]

Re: 20m for Nasri

This whole forum was deperate for nasri also
It had 1000 page threads frothing at the mouth for mancini to go and get him

Nasri best and only position is in the Silva role, it's no coincidence that his best game for us this season was West Ham away when Silva didn't play, he's back up at best.

Just to level things up a bit, there were many on the forum that didn't want RVP because of his age and his history on injuries, just saying!

Went to that game and Hmmm not sure if i can remember much of him, i'll take your word for it.. All i can remember is us battering them and not being able to hit a barn door and get the goal we needed... however Samir may have been the reason we had such dominance?

He was played in the hole behind the forward line and was spraying the ball from left to right, he was the heartbeat of the side that controlled the tempo of our game like Silva does when he's played.

When Nasri's played out wide he's not interested, when he cuts inside he takes up Silvas space so becomes non effective, he wont track back and protect the space that Zaba leaves when he pushes on etc etc........

In my eyes, he's just a very expensive back up for Silva, nothing more, nothing less

 

[MSP]

Re: 20m for Nasri

Nothing story... Mancini criticized him publicly so let's write an article that he is on sale.

Yeah, that would be great way to sell your player - he is shit you know and doesn't want to try, would you buy it? Sure, is 30m enough..

 

[Barcon]

Re: 20m for Nasri

I cannot for the life of me believe that anyone is going to be mug enough to pay £20m for Nasri, with those wages. He's enormously overpriced.

I think we will do well to sell him at all, unless we take about £10-12m and he accepts a big paycut.

Like I said, we are stuck with him.

And I'm sorry to bring it around to this (no, I really am) but Mancini needs to take a fair share of the blame for it.

He was desperate for Nasri and put serious pressure on Cook and Marwood to beat United to his signature.

It was silly to then have a pop in public, his value has been plummeting as it was.

We have been pissing away money.

This whole forum was deperate for nasri alsoIt had 1000 page threads frothing at the mouth for mancini to go and get him

Nonsense. Woops, just realized you might be fishing.

 

[Akira]

Re: 20m for Nasri

The problem is that Nasri isn't being played in the right way.
The reason Nasri stood out so much in his last season at Arsenal was because he was being played in a position that allowed him to score goals, now he's being played as a playmaker. Nasri can still perform in the Silva role, but not very often as it's not his typical play style. His best position would be in the CAM/CF role behind the main striker, but I feel we have better players for the position.
£20m would be okay, but I know that he'll start performing again when he leaves, like Mario has.


He's still a lazy twat though.

Seconded.

But it's not about how we play him anymore, now Mancini's questioning his attitude. He seems just about comfortable to sit on bench and pick up his wages, not giving a shit about the cause. This attitude shouldn't be tolerated, in any club, anywhere.

Unless he's ready to turn from a Robinho to a Zabaleta, then get rid.

 

[Andouble]

Re: 20m for Nasri

This whole forum was deperate for nasri also
It had 1000 page threads frothing at the mouth for mancini to go and get him

to be fair, he was way better at Arsenal.