Nathan Ake

Coatigan said:
By the most conservative reports, we are getting 50m including even the most minimal add-ons. Some claim up to 10m in add-ons, which brings it closer to 60m. All in £ for clarity. Call it evens down the middle at 55m and run with that if it helps you sleep better. Similar with Gabi 45m plus anything from 5m to 10m in add-ons, call it 50m for ease.

I think we will get 50m for Ake as well in one form or another, wouldn't worry about specific numbers as claimed by various outlets, best guesses and a bit of headline generating. The club will be happy with it otherwise it wouldn't be happening. 2.5m at those scales is really neither here nor there to worry about.
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Wasn't it David Ornstein correcting himself that the deal was £47.5M with no add-ons?
 
SerbianBlue said:
Wasn't it David Ornstein correcting himself that the deal was £47.5M with no add-ons?
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And? Means nothing really. For every Ornstein you have a Matt Law that claims a slightly different number, and for every Matt you have a Jack, and for all three you have a Romano who claims it in Euros just to confuse things.

Pick the lowest if you want to, pick the highest, or split it down the middle. All good either way.
 
Coatigan said:
I would bet significant stakes that he is wrong. A deal of this size with a flat out fee and no add-ons whatsoever? Yeah right.
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Dont understand why you would have ‘add ons’ with a 27 YO full international, let alone one going to a direct competitor. What would you be adding on? Surely not them winning stuff, or number of appearances, or goals scored, so I can’t see why you’d bother?
 
Coatigan said:
I would bet significant stakes that he is wrong. A deal of this size with a flat out fee and no add-ons whatsoever? Yeah right.
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I don’t know. If add-ons are that common, and it was a guess, you would think he would guess a contract with them in but he went out of his way to stress there weren’t any.

It wasn’t that long ago we never heard of add-ons and it makes me wonder if it’s just that social media have got into the habit of reporting them now whereas in the past nobody was bothered and just wanted to know the guaranteed fee.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Dont understand why you would have ‘add ons’ with a 27 YO full international, let alone one going to a direct competitor. What would you be adding on? Surely not them winning stuff, or number of appearances, or goals scored, so I can’t see why you’d bother?
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Thought that myself at points, but what was the last deal to be done without add-ons? they help everyone. Chelsea get to claim a lower initial figure, we get a value we are looking for on a player that in the last year of his contract is hard to be stubborn about a few million here and there. They could be anything, performances, statistics etc. Genuinely can't think of a transfer claimed to be a flat out fee in the last number of years.
 
Cobwebcat said:
I don’t know. If add-ons are that common, and it was a guess, you would think he would guess a contract with them in but he went out of his way to stress there weren’t any.

It wasn’t that long ago we never heard of add-ons and it makes me wonder if it’s just that social media have got into the habit of reporting them now whereas in the past nobody was bothered and just wanted to know the guaranteed fee.
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Possibly. Too many people have claimed otherwise with Raz for Ornestein to somehow be the only one 'right' on it, particularly given he himself has been inconsistent on it. Kind of a side note to my point anyway.
 
SerbianBlue said:
Wasn't it David Ornstein correcting himself that the deal was £47.5M with no add-ons?
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Not sure why anybody should be worried about the " reported " fees personally , and tbh I doubt most of those reporting actually know the correct amounts involved.

Depending where their " loyalties " lie dictates pretty much where they state the fees are ie rag / dipper aligned report low figures.

Pretty sure that if the club are happy with the deals settled upon, that is what they consider is the best that can be achieved.
 
Are you still allowed to have add-ons for players winning trophies ? I remember when Everton played United in 2012 (the 4-4 draw) there was a concern that it was in Everton's interest to lose the match, as there was a trophy clause built into Rooney's transfer.
 
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