Nelson Mandela RIP

[jay_mcfc]

Mandela/ANC killed and raped black people too. They were a terrorist organization.

I guess the IRA are worse to the cool kids/lefties as they are white.

It's the old finger pointing at its best.

No, it's as Matty pointed out in his brilliant post earlier. The IRA were living in a country where they were equal. Where they could vote, work and not be discriminated against because of your colour.

 

[Banned Tosspot]

Mandela/ANC killed and raped black people too. They were a terrorist organization.

I guess the IRA are worse to the cool kids/lefties as they are white.

It's the old finger pointing at its best.

No, it's as Matty pointed out in his brilliant post earlier. The IRA were living in a country where they were equal. Where they could vote, work and not be discriminated against because of your colour.

In their view, they weren't equal.

What about the rapes and necklacing of their own race?

 

[mcmanus]

Mandela/ANC killed and raped black people too. They were a terrorist organization.

I guess the IRA are worse to the cool kids/lefties as they are white.

It's the old finger pointing at its best.

No, it's as Matty pointed out in his brilliant post earlier. The IRA were living in a country where they were equal. Where they could vote, work and not be discriminated against because of your colour.

In their view, they weren't equal.

What about the rapes and necklacing of their own race?

Jeez, special school didn't work for you.

 

[Banned Tosspot]

No, it's as Matty pointed out in his brilliant post earlier. The IRA were living in a country where they were equal. Where they could vote, work and not be discriminated against because of your colour.

In their view, they weren't equal.

What about the rapes and necklacing of their own race?

Jeez, special school didn't work for you.

There's no need for personal attacks.

I'm not keen on innocent people being murdered which I'm sure you can agree with.

Maybe you need to see things from both sides rather than have the censored version of Mandela's life.

 

[M18CTID]

Mandela/ANC killed and raped black people too. They were a terrorist organization.

I guess the IRA are worse to the cool kids/lefties as they are white.

It's the old finger pointing at its best.

No, it's as Matty pointed out in his brilliant post earlier. The IRA were living in a country where they were equal. Where they could vote, work and not be discriminated against because of your colour.

That's not quite true though is it? Not that I in any way approve of the actions of the IRA (and I place Mandela many notches above pond life such as Adams and McGuiness), but Catholics in Northern Ireland were discriminated against back in the 1960's.

 

[mcmanus]

In their view, they weren't equal.

What about the rapes and necklacing of their own race?

Jeez, special school didn't work for you.

There's no need for personal attacks.

I'm not keen on innocent people being murdered which I'm sure you can agree with.

Maybe you need to see things from both sides rather than have the censored version of Mandela's life.

Give over you soft twat. I'm only taking the piss.

He is a legend though.

 

[Banned Tosspot]

Jeez, special school didn't work for you.

There's no need for personal attacks.

I'm not keen on innocent people being murdered which I'm sure you can agree with.

Maybe you need to see things from both sides rather than have the censored version of Mandela's life.

Give over you soft twat. I'm only taking the piss.

He is a legend though.

A murderer of women and children is a legend?

Fair enough soft twat.

 

[M18CTID]

Maybe it should be 'His battle against a racist regime that beat, killed and raped black people'?

Honestly the way some of you are going on you'd think he should have just invited Apartheid round for a cup of tea and the only arguement should have been rich tea or jammy dodgers.

That's a very good point. I think Mandela had his faults in his earlier years but there was no doubt that he eventually became a remarkable human being. However, I would be interested to know if he was in any way involved in sanctioning the more indiscriminate bombing campaigns of the ANC during the 1970's and 1980's which resulted in the deaths of innocent civilians. I can't see how he could've approved of such behaviour but I'm not sure it's ever been proven either way has it?

Well we definitely know his wife Winnie certainly was as she encouraged the act of tyre burning innocents in a speech.

I respect Nelson Mandela greatly and has lived an extraordinary life! I take my hat off to him for leading a peace campaign during his 27 years in prison. I haven’t even been alive for that period of time and to me what he did was sensational.

However, I am a history fan and what I can’t stand is people who are very selective with their history (a bit like the rags) and dismiss events which they are ashamed of. The BBC is supposed to be unbiased and factual. I was simply stating that it was a bit poor not to really mention his violence, bombings and terror acts before his imprisonment. If you lost a relative to an ANC bombing I don't think you'd want to dismiss that chapter in history would you?

That's a good, balanced appraisal IMO. I agree about Winnie - I see her as being far more of a wrong 'un than Nelson ever was.

 

[mcmanus]

There's no need for personal attacks.

I'm not keen on innocent people being murdered which I'm sure you can agree with.

Maybe you need to see things from both sides rather than have the censored version of Mandela's life.

Give over you soft twat. I'm only taking the piss.

He is a legend though.

A murderer of women and children is a legend?

Fair enough soft twat.

Yes, yes he is.

I got this funny feeling more will turn at his funeral than yours.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Give over you soft twat. I'm only taking the piss.

He is a legend though.

A murderer of women and children is a legend?

Fair enough soft twat.

Yes, yes he is.

I got this funny feeling more will turn at his funeral than yours.

And I bet more turned to to Thatcher's than yours ;-)