New Contracts (Kompany signs until 2019 - page 52)

Re: New Contracts

adrianr said:
BillyShears said:
Fantastic news.

Although it does beg the question what of Kolarov, Milner, Nasri, and Dzeko. All have deals expiring in just over 12 months.

Whatever we think of them at times, that's still an awful lot of talent to potentially walk on a free.

It would be unprecedented. They'll extend or be sold this summer.
 
Re: New Contracts

Andouble said:
adrianr said:
BillyShears said:
Fantastic news.

Although it does beg the question what of Kolarov, Milner, Nasri, and Dzeko. All have deals expiring in just over 12 months.

Whatever we think of them at times, that's still an awful lot of talent to potentially walk on a free.

It would be unprecedented. They'll extend or be sold this summer.

I would keep milner & nasri and look to sell kola and get felipe luis in and sell edin to help fund a move for either fabregas or pogba. we would still have kun,beast and jojo for striker positions.
 
Re: New Contracts

gordondaviesmoustache said:
sam-caddick said:
If we have signed Silva up to a new contract then I reckon we have got him for the rest of his career which is massive.

Whilst Silva is a massive coup, Sergio is arguably bigger with him just about to come into his prime as a striker, if we can get him on a new 5 year deal that would be a huge statement.
*sniff, sniff*


;-)

Massive call
 
Re: New Contracts

CityStu said:
117 M34 said:
80s Shorts said:
I'm sorry but that is a laughable argument.

Using a non plausible situation to prove your argument. Even you yourself say that the argument you put forward wouldnt happen.

The fact is you are trying to say that Barcelona having a 200m buyout for Messi is of no benefit to Barcelona. Absolute bollocks imho.

ok, how about this made up scenario which has the exact same principle.

Stockport's best player is called Diego Zidane. He is worth 25k - this figure is what Stockport, Telford and the rest of the footballing world think he is worth. However, his buy out clause is 30k.

Stockport are skint and need to sell a player. Telford want Zidane and Stockport have to sell to raise the money.

They phone Stockport and offer 25k ( the fee both clubs value him at).
Stockport agree to sell, Zidane agrees to move to Telford, the deal goes through.

Now, where did Zidane's buy out clause of 30k help Stockport?

Suppose Zidane is worth 25k and has a release clause of 30k. Instead of your scenario, Stockport are doing fine financially and don't need to sell. A bigger club comes in wanting Zidane and offers the 25k he is worth. Zidane wants the move but can't really force Stockport to sell with transfer requests and pleading with them to accept the offer as he's contracted to a release clause.

All of Porto's stars have been sold for release clauses rather than market value.

And what if Diego Zidane had no buyout clause?

Stockport could demand whatever they want and wouldn't be forced to accept for 30k

Buy out clauses favour the player, not the club.

The reason they are often set so ridiculously high in Spain is to prevent them from being triggered and the only reason all Spanish clubs use them is because it's a legal requirement
 
Re: New Contracts

depps said:
CityStu said:
117 M34 said:
ok, how about this made up scenario which has the exact same principle.

Stockport's best player is called Diego Zidane. He is worth 25k - this figure is what Stockport, Telford and the rest of the footballing world think he is worth. However, his buy out clause is 30k.

Stockport are skint and need to sell a player. Telford want Zidane and Stockport have to sell to raise the money.

They phone Stockport and offer 25k ( the fee both clubs value him at).
Stockport agree to sell, Zidane agrees to move to Telford, the deal goes through.

Now, where did Zidane's buy out clause of 30k help Stockport?

Suppose Zidane is worth 25k and has a release clause of 30k. Instead of your scenario, Stockport are doing fine financially and don't need to sell. A bigger club comes in wanting Zidane and offers the 25k he is worth. Zidane wants the move but can't really force Stockport to sell with transfer requests and pleading with them to accept the offer as he's contracted to a release clause.

All of Porto's stars have been sold for release clauses rather than market value.

And what if Diego Zidane had no buyout clause?

Stockport could demand whatever they want and wouldn't be forced to accept for 30k

Buy out clauses favour the player, not the club.

The reason they are often set so ridiculously high in Spain is to prevent them from being triggered and the only reason all Spanish clubs use them is because it's a legal requirement

Bingo!
 
Re: New Contracts

117 M34 said:
80s Shorts said:
117 M34 said:
No it isn't. If they were willing to accept £30m (yes, I know they wouldn't) then we could buy him for that, if he wanted to come, regardless of any buy out clause, whether it be 30m or 300m.

And yes, of course it is up to the player to agree to a move, I wasn't suggesting any player could be forced to move somewhere as a result of a buy out clause - again in favour of the player not the clubs.



I'm sorry but that is a laughable argument.

Using a non plausible situation to prove your argument. Even you yourself say that the argument you put forward wouldnt happen.

The fact is you are trying to say that Barcelona having a 200m buyout for Messi is of no benefit to Barcelona. Absolute bollocks imho.

ok, how about this made up scenario which has the exact same principle.

Stockport's best player is called Diego Zidane. He is worth 25k - this figure is what Stockport, Telford and the rest of the footballing world think he is worth. However, his buy out clause is 30k.

Stockport are skint and need to sell a player. Telford want Zidane and Stockport have to sell to raise the money.

They phone Stockport and offer 25k ( the fee both clubs value him at).
Stockport agree to sell, Zidane agrees to move to Telford, the deal goes through.

Now, where did Zidane's buy out clause of 30k help Stockport?

We are going round in circles here. You qualify your argumeent by saying Stockport are skint and use Zidane ( another made up scenario ).

If they didnt want to sell at 25k then they would not have to. So therefore it benefits the club not wishing to sell.
 

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