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Just because it hasnt happened to you mate (which I'm glad of) doesnt mean that the issue no longer exists.
It still causing issues and it's still causing problems for many people, as of today. When you say it doesnt happen anymore ..what build date TV's are you you refering to?

Burn in doesn't happen overnight and can take many years to materialise. Why are LG and others still integtraing anti burn measures to their tech. Seems a bit pointless for something that does no longer exists.And why are J.L selling an insurance warranty for something that cant or wont happen.
Had a B9 for 4 years got a C1 2 years and two C2s, one I use as a pc monitor . stuff that implemented now negates it massively if you had it in 24/7 on a logo then maybe but the average person won’t see it, the JL stuff was probably relevant a few years ago but like lots of domestic insurance it’s a gimmick now. I’m in avforums and have been a long time and it’s very rare on new sets. The picture etc far outweighs any issues I have with burn in, the price is tumbling on them and will only come down, if you were to get it in 5 years you could just buy a new better model.
 
I’ve actually stopped buying new, there’s a good market out there for ridiculously good tvs that are only one or two years old as there’s a lot of people that upgrade far sooner than they ever need to.
 
Had a B9 for 4 years got a C1 2 years and two C2s, one I use as a pc monitor . stuff that implemented now negates it massively if you had it in 24/7 on a logo then maybe but the average person won’t see it, the JL stuff was probably relevant a few years ago but like lots of domestic insurance it’s a gimmick now. I’m in avforums and have been a long time and it’s very rare on new sets. The picture etc far outweighs any issues I have with burn in, the price is tumbling on them and will only come down, if you were to get it in 5 years you could just buy a new better model.
LG's fixes will continue to reduce the problem, hopefully they can now improve their build to a fit for purpose standard. However only the passing of time time will tell how well they've done. Its the nature of the beast that makes this tech behave the way it does, its Organic and the diodes will deteriorate and dim at different levels dependent on usage tendered.

Other underling factors, such as OLED luminance levels, replacement of the carbon-hydrogen bonds in the organic element and a better understanding of how static logos banners have impacted the tech. Some TV stations are now dimming down logos to a third of their saturation, which should help. Why not just be rid of them altogether?

How do you know with any level of certainty that these new sets are immune to the anomaly? They are new sets and so it takes time for the problem to surface.

Re your last paragraph .. that is what I mentioned in my last post to Mr Thaksin. If he could buy a warranty from John Lewis for 5 years, then buy a set at his target price of 1k .. he would have achieved VFM at 50p a day. Price v longevity of a given product is equal to the value offered. The worry of burn out is then negated.

Its a shame isn't it, that LG will not supply warranty's for something that they say, is the fault of the end user.
They know screen burn out exists, and they know why this is. Its inherent in it's nature that its pixels will eventually fade when faced with static objects on screen or logos and banners. This is why they continue to spend a kings ransom trying to rectify, with their special "fixes"

The judge agreed, that the above mentioned logos banners are an integral part of a tv's picture, and that LG'S product if it was of satisfactory quality should have be able to handle this.

We all buy TV's to watch pictures that move around on the screen and it is not unreasonable to expect that this should continue for a reasonable period of time ( 5 or 10 years dependent on hours used) and at a reasonable uniformity and brightness. If it does not then the TV is either faulty or not fit for it's intended purpose and the manufacturer or retailer should cover this in the supplied warranty.

No sensible person can transcribe to the train of thought, that a manufacturer can say that because we watched logos on Good Morning Britain, Sky News or banners on Football for X number of hours a day, we have damaged the TV with our viewing habits. How dare we watch TV in this manner.

Anyway we shall see how these newer better improved sets (which they probably are) perform after a few more years of usage. RTINGS.COM are still doing tests and all their previous findings are on their site.

I hope the tech can at last overcome it's Achilles heel, by building TV's with a reasonable life span. The OLED picture quality is a thing of beauty, so I am not anti OLED. Fact of the matter is that I couldn't justify a 3k outlay for 2 years of use. Lg/Curry's lost their case because their goods were not of merchantable quality, and not fit for purpose. I have other family members with 19 plate sets that are knackered with the Neflix logo and sky news banners.
 
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LG's fixes will to an extent reduce the issue and hopefully improve their build to a fit for purpose standard. However only the passing of time time will tell how well they have done, as its the nature of the beast that makes the tech behave the way it does. Its Organic and the light diods emmited, will deteriate and dim at different levels dependant on useage tendered ..

Also other underling factors such as OLED luminence, replacement of carbon-hydrogen bonds in the organic element and also a greater understanding of how static logos and banners impact their tech. Some stations are now dimming down their logos to a third of their saturation, which should help. Why not just be rid of them altogether?

How do you know with any level of certainty that these new sets are now immune to the anomoly? They are new sets and so it takes time for the problem to surface.

Re your last paragraph .. that is what I mentioned in my last post to Mr Thaksin. If he could buy a warranty from John Lewis for say 5 years then buy a set at his target price of 1k .. then he would have acheived VFM at 50p a day. Price v longivity of a given product is equal to the value offered. The worry of burn out is then totally negated.

Its a shame isnt it, that LG will not supply a warranty for something that they say, is the fault of the end user.
They know screen burn out exists, and they know why this is, with the tech being organic. Its inherent in it's nature that its pixels will eventualy fade when faced with static objects on screen or logos and banners. This is why they continue to spend a kings ransom trying to rectify, with "fixes" such as luminance reduction and advice to the end user on how to use their telly?

The judge agreed, that the above mentioned logos banners are an integral part of a tv's picture, and that LG'S product if it was of satifacory quality should have be able to handle this.

We all buy TV's to watch pictures that move around on the screen and it is not unreasonable to expect that this should continue for a reasonable period of time ( 5 or 10 years dependent on hours used) and at a reasonable uniformity and brightness. If it does not then the TV is either faulty or not fit for it's intended purpose and the manufacturer or retailer should cover this in the supplied warranty.

No sensible person can transcribe to the train of thought that a manufacturer can say that because we watched logos on Good Morning Britain C.Beebies Sky News or banners on Football for X number of hours a day then we damaged our TV with our viewing habits. How very dare we ..How dare we watch TV in this manner

Anyway we shall see how these newer better improved sets (which they probably are) perform after a few more years of usage. RTINGS.COM are still doing tests and all their previous findings are on their site.

I hope the tech can at last overcome it's achiles heel, by builded TV's with a reasonable life span. The OLED picture quality is a thing of beauty, so I am not anti OLED. Fact of the matter is that I couldn't justify a 3k outlay for 2 years of use. Lg/Curry's lost their defence because their goods were not of merchantable quality and not fit for purpose. I have other family memebers with 19 plate sets that are knackered wih the Neflix logos and sky news banners.
I totally agree on logos, like you said if curry’s lost not fit for purpose then I totally agree, still hasn’t stopped me going for the best picture I can at the moment my 77 inch LG OLED is stunning and best tv I’ve owned I don’t change my tv that often so hopefully many years ahead.
 
Anyone have any experience of Hisense TVs ?
A little bit of info here on Hisense the Chinese mass market budget manufacturer. Never owned one, but they appear to offer great value, depending on what your needs and wants are.


 
A little bit of info here on Hisense the Chinese mass market budget manufacturer. Never owned one, but they appear to offer great value, depending on what your needs and wants are.


Thanks mate. I read an article that they were pouring billions into research. I wondered how their sets stood up to the likes of LG. The article you posted tells me they don’t. Hope you had a brilliant Christmas. Enjoy the New year break. :-)
 
this will be brilliant, last years model but it’s the gallery version so thinner and comes with its own mount, only thing is you don’t have much room behind it for cables and plug up if you use the supplied mount.
Now leaning towards the 65 option on this. Sitting position about 8.5ft from chimney.

A lot more than I had budgeted for but we are kitting out the living room in full. Carpet, furniture, media wall with electric fire etc so might as well do it properly.
 

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