Newcastle fans

Mick_ said:
Fans of most clubs will have dark days, I bet Man U fans thought that they were going through dark days since Fergie retired. Newcastle have won one trophy in my lifetime and the validity of that one trophy is being debated on here. In that time and before you were bought out you won six as far as I’m aware. I'm aware you've had tough times and I have always defended your club and your fans.
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Mick, it’s not ‘Fergie’, it’s GPC.
 
Mancity1980 said:
This is our point. In the season before that (1990-91) your average attendance was 16,879, you even had only 9,175 against Crewe that year. I think you have a fantastic support but unlike Manchester City you live in a one club city and your attendance drop when the going gets tough.
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Our two lowest attendances were both against Wrexham during the same season. Both games were played in torrential rain and the first one was abandoned. https://www.footballsite.co.uk/Statistics/Seasons/1978-79/ClubResults/1978-79.NewcastleUnited.html#:~:text=* The Newcastle v Wrexham Second,League crowd at the ground.

This is our ground at the time, both covered ends held about 6,000 between them because both paddocks were open to the elemants.
 

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Mick_ said:
Fans of most clubs will have dark days, I bet Man U fans thought that they were going through dark days since Fergie retired. Newcastle have won one trophy in my lifetime and the validity of that one trophy is being debated on here. In that time and before you were bought out you won six as far as I’m aware. I'm aware you've had tough times and I have always defended your club and your fans.
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Fair points, however most rags fans have no idea what dark days are, compared to what us City fans & you Geordies have been through.
Not getting into the CL is their understanding of 'dark days' and nothing like going down into the 3rd division. Or in your case, just escaping that fate. In my lifetime the only 'dark days' the rags have had were when they were relegated in 1974. Even then they bounced back straight away with Docherty's young exciting team. That's why many Blues of my generation cherish every moment of success we are getting right now and nothing is taken for granted.
 
BillCarlisle said:
Fair points, however most rags fans have no idea what dark days are, compared to what us City fans & you Geordies have been through.
Not getting into the CL is their understanding of 'dark days' and nothing like going down into the 3rd division. Or in your case, just escaping that fate. In my lifetime the only 'dark days' the rags have had were when they were relegated in 1974. Even then they bounced back straight away with Docherty's young exciting team. That's why many Blues of my generation cherish every moment of success we are getting right now and nothing is taken for granted.
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I don't remember much of their time in the second division other than seeing their fans on TV and in papers climbing on to roofs of some stands when they attended away games.
 
Bluesince1979 said:
Your last couple of lines aint great mate. Ashley was great compared to peter swales, we didnt stop going though.
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No he wasn't. They were both shit. And let's be fair here - our attendances did drop off a fair bit in the period between the late 70s and early 80s so there were people out there who did stop going, as there are at every single club in the land when a team falls on hard times. That said, our league crowds never dropped below 15k even during some of the dark days in the 80s whereas Newcastle saw theirs drop to 10k for one game against Oxford in 1991.
 
M18CTID said:
No he wasn't. They were both shit. And let's be fair here - our attendances did drop off a fair bit in the period between the late 70s and early 80s so there were people out there who did stop going, as there are at every single club in the land when a team falls on hard times. That said, our league crowds never dropped below 15k even during some of the dark days in the 80s whereas Newcastle saw theirs drop to 10k for one game against Oxford in 1991.
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Our crowds dropped in line with the decline of national football crowds. Unemployment and hooliganism had a huge impact.

We were 4th biggest supported club with crowds of 25,000.
Arsenal and spurs getting lower some years. Oh and we were in the 2nd div for large chunks of that period.

So yeah we did stop going, but only in line with the whole country
 
Bluesince1979 said:
Our crowds dropped in line with the decline of national football crowds. Unemployment and hooliganism had a huge impact.

We were 4th biggest supported club with crowds of 25,000.
Arsenal and spurs getting lower some years. Oh and we were in the 2nd div for large chunks of that period.

So yeah we did stop going, but only in line with the whole country
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I get that but I'm talking of the drop-off from a 40,000+ average to something like 27,000 in the space of 2-3 seasons

Either way, many Newcastle fans who were there on Saturday weren't even born when they were getting those low crowds in the 80s and early 90s so you can't exactly hold them responsible for not turning up back then
 
M18CTID said:
I get that but I'm talking of the drop-off from a 40,000+ average to something like 27,000 in the space of 2-3 seasons

Either way, many Newcastle fans who were there on Saturday weren't even born when they were getting those low crowds in the 80s and early 90s so you can't exactly hold them responsible for not turning up back then
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I wasnt.

My initial comments were to do with the great myth that the ‘geordie nation’ support through thick n thin. They dont.

Also quiet as a mouse on saturday
 
Bluesince1979 said:
I wasnt.

My initial comments were to do with the great myth that the ‘geordie nation’ support through thick n thin. They dont.

Also quiet as a mouse on saturday
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the media are lazy as fk..keep going on about amazing travelling support sell out their aways etc. Loads of prem clubs do it's not unusual. Virtually impossible to get a City txt away. Also no media acknowledgement for our huge away support all over Europe...Athens..friendly...thousands of blues there, just glossed over as it doesn't suit the media narrative. I like calling them out as it discredits as football journalists, not knowing or researching the facts - makes for a very poor journalist in my eyes. We should take this line as it should really hurt some of these lazy journo's ..questioning their ability to research and understand facts.
 
M18CTID said:
I get that but I'm talking of the drop-off from a 40,000+ average to something like 27,000 in the space of 2-3 seasons

Either way, many Newcastle fans who were there on Saturday weren't even born when they were getting those low crowds in the 80s and early 90s so you can't exactly hold them responsible for not turning up back then
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These youngsters then can't start slinging ''plastic'' at us ..which they do...two sides of the coin....We always turned up - they need telling if they start that plastic shite
 
levets said:
It was the ‘idea’ of the FIFA vice president at the time, the Italian FA & English FA, but was organised by the ‘Fairs Cup Committee’, not FIFA itself. As I stated it was not recognised by UEFA until it had evolved and later rebranded.
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‘While the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup is generally considered to be the predecessor to the UEFA Cup, it was not organised by UEFA and ran under different regulations; consequently, the confederation does not consider clubs' records in the Fairs Cup to be part of their European honours/record.’
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Was invitational as well, didn't really have to qualify - did Birmingham City play in it as well...to me its like the old Texaco Cup
 
Slagging off a club’s support because of crowds in the 80s is a bit unfair.

Everybody’s crowds were poor in the 80s. Can’t be arsed looking up averages but 15,000- 18,000 were normal Maine Road attendances in the mid/ late 80s and anything over 20,000 was reserved for a big game.
 
Dexter Morgan said:
Ofcourse it sold out but many refused entry for being pissed or using someone else's tickets. They were loud and backed their team till the end. Not a lot different from our Maine Rd fanbase.
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Fans are similar, City always sell out away, and have had amazing crowds for dcades...looking at where we were in the attendence table amazes me. even with pierce and the 10 or 13 goal home season! Of course we have always been right up there since professional football began, Manchester is a football mad city after all. Media will tell you only Liverpool and Newcastle deserve that acolade..thats what annoys people...not the fans....its he sycophantic narrative to create some sort of unique culture to keep the media pigs noses in troughs...its storey they are mythically creating after all.. Just winds up most loyal match goers up nd down the country
 
Tolmie scores said:
Was invitational as well, didn't really have to qualify - did Birmingham City play in it as well...to me its like the old Texaco Cup
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Was invitational at the onset, but later was based on league position, although wasn’t always the highest placed teams, as there was a ‘one team per City’ rule. Hence Newcastle got in despite finishing 9th.
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