Newcastle Thread - 2023/24

[Mick_]

I think the cartels insistence on so called “FFP” has sort of a done a job on Newcastle.

We spent a lot of money before getting it right. Newcastle don’t have that luxury. We could quickly move Adebayor Robinho Santa Cruz etc on and go again. Newcastle have to be so more careful.

That said Mancini was pivotal to us. Demanding and a man who showed us how to win. Not sure Howe is that man for Newcastle.

They're the rules and we'll just have to get on with it unfortunately. The historically well-off clubs did all they could to limit the potential of other clubs pushing them down the pecking order, it’s corruption of power. We're increasing our commercial revenue but some will take time to filter through.

Fun88 have gone, Castore is going at the end of the season, but we’ve had to buy both out which will have a negative financial impact which doesn't help us for now. The increased revenue from Europe will not help us for now either, again that will probably get to us for the next summer window.

Ashley is still looming over the club. It's incredible that the first commercial deal since the takeover was for a sleeve sponsor which was worth more than our front of shirt sponsorship and kit deal individually which Ashley signed off.

 

[Mick_]

Eddie Howe won’t see this season out

I hope he does last the season out because it means that he's done well for us but only time will tell.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

I have never believed the hype over Howe. Just because he is an English manager, then he’s up there? A work colleague (blue) says he’s a top manager and I would say to him, “would you like him as our next manager?” and he’d hesitate. In other words he’s ok so long as he’s not our manager because he’s not good enough and that’s why I agree with you, Newcastle will get a new manager/coach in and they will start to win things.

see how he does with the champions league but I don’t see him being at newcastle too much after

 

[Ducado]

I know it's early days but I have not been impressed at all by Newcastle they seemed to have regressed from last season

 

[BillCarlisle]

I thought at the time he was appointed that Eddie Howe would be a stepping stone manager. Probably the best of those available at the time, and at an affordable cost. As well as Newcastle did last season, the disappointing display in the LC Final was a pointer towards the real level of quality in the squad and coaching staff. I have said before on here that I wish them well and with the backing of PIF I am sure that they will succeed in the long run. Unfortunately for Howe I suspect he will be seeking gainful employment elsewhere before that comes to fruition.

 

[jrb]

 

[KS55]

Wow, here comes trouble. May the piss boil at full steam. Are you watching Redshirts?

 

[Mick_]

Wow, here comes trouble. May the piss boil at full steam. Are you watching Redshirts?

One share was only worth £40 million last year, a 50% increase seems steep. I think some of the £60 million will go towards the new fanzone which is going to be built just outside of the Gallowgate end. I think the fanzone was/is planned to be opened by the end of this year and I don't think it has started yet. The rest of the money is probably going towards running costs for the club.

 

[KS55]

One share was only worth £40 million last year, a 50% increase seems steep. I think some of the £60 million will go towards the new fanzone which is going to be built just outside of the Gallowgate end. I think the fanzone was/is planned to be opened by the end of this year and I don't think it has started yet. The rest of the money is probably going towards running costs for the club.

Just the start. The beginning of the end for the cartel mob.

 

[halfcenturyup]

One share was only worth £40 million last year, a 50% increase seems steep. I think some of the £60 million will go towards the new fanzone which is going to be built just outside of the Gallowgate end. I think the fanzone was/is planned to be opened by the end of this year and I don't think it has started yet. The rest of the money is probably going towards running costs for the club.

Not sure it can finance your operating costs, only increased revenue can do that, I think. But it can be used for infrastructure: stadium, academy, training ground, women's team, that sort of thing.

Don't worry about the one share thing, that's perfectly normal. Only a financial ignoramus would have a problem with it.

 

[KS55]

Not sure it can finance your operating costs, only increased revenue can do that, I think. But it can be used for infrastructure: stadium, academy, training ground, women's team, that sort of thing.

Don't worry about the one share thing, that's perfectly normal. Only a financial ignoramus would have a problem with it.

I assume the holder is the sovereign wealth fund.
In a way the distinction between running costs and infrastructure cost is not real as funding infrastructure by selling a share simply leaves other income more available for transfers and wages etc.

 

[halfcenturyup]

I assume the holder is the sovereign wealth fund.
In a way the distinction between running costs and infrastructure cost is not real as funding infrastructure by selling a share simply leaves other income more available for transfers and wages etc.

Yes, but you can spend as much as you want on infrastructure. The amount you can spend is restricted based on revenue, not how much equity is put in.

 

[KS55]

Yes, but you can spend as much as you want on infrastructure. The amount you can spend is restricted based on revenue, not how much equity is put in.

My point was availability of funds which are subject to ffp is increased because you don’t have to spend on infrastructure, the capital injection takes care of it. See CFA!
If I have £x available in my bank which is ok on ffp calculations but need to fix the roof, I would have to borrow at interest for the roof or reduce my transfer/wages kitty.
The good sheik, unlike the Blaziers, never charged us a penny interest.

 

[bluethrunthru]

some Barcodes fans on C4 News just now bleating about their new owners. I honestly think they don't know what they really want - they rejoiced when they got shot of Ashley and are now unhappy again.

I think the only thing that will work is if someone miraculously inherits the club and hands a Supporters Trust for free the ground, the squad and £2bn to spend further - even then they will find something to moan about - soz aboooot

 

[Crouchinho]

Howe done terrific at Bournemouth with a shoestring budget and took a team flirting with relegation to champions league in a season. He's done a marvellous job and any talk of him getting the boot seems premature and so typically premier league style.

It seems English managers are sneered at amongst the media and football fans, when in reality only a handful of managers over the past few decades win medals. I don't think giving him the boot is going to turn water into wine.

There is still a huge project at the club it would be nice if he could see a lot of it though.

That's not to say he should be immune from criticism because the past few games I've done the same and questioned his subs and tactics.

Its still a learning curve for him. He's playing with the big boys now. I think he deserves his chance though

 

[BlueMoonday]

Sorry but what's wrong with "whataboutery" in this instance?

It's weird how Guardian journos keep quiet about the American ownership of clubs which is creeping towards a majority in the PL but shout about Middle Eastern ownership... I can't think why... The US has an awful
Human Rights record and it isn't highlighted by these "journos"..

 

[billymumphrey]

Howe done terrific at Bournemouth with a shoestring budget and took a team flirting with relegation to champions league in a season. He's done a marvellous job and any talk of him getting the boot seems premature and so typically premier league style.

It seems English managers are sneered at amongst the media and football fans, when in reality only a handful of managers over the past few decades win medals. I don't think giving him the boot is going to turn water into wine.

There is still a huge project at the club it would be nice if he could see a lot of it though.

That's not to say he should be immune from criticism because the past few games I've done the same and questioned his subs and tactics.

Its still a learning curve for him. He's playing with the big boys now. I think he deserves his chance though

Well no english manager has won the Premier League... ;)

 

[Asa's left peg]

Sorry but what's wrong with "whataboutery" in this instance?

It's weird how Guardian journos keep quiet about the American ownership of clubs which is creeping towards a majority in the PL but shout about Middle Eastern ownership... I can't think why... The US has an awful
Human Rifhts record and it isn't highlighted by these "journos"..

Looking forward to them demonstrating outside racecourses (sport of kings, haha ), Formula one teams headquarters, tennis, golf etc, The Shard, The Ministry of Defence and finally where they should be - outside 10 Downing Street.

I'm so sick of these hypocrites using a 'working class' sport to draw attention to their coiffured, slightly bruised consciences but leaving the things that affect their lives alone. The only way human rights issues can be addressed is at government level.

As I have said before - people who live in countries with glass houses, shouldn't throw stones.

 

[BrianW]

That war in Yemen that Saudis and UAE get slagged for?

1. The other side is backed by Iran. It's a proxy war.
2. As I read the other day, the UK (and the US no doubt!) are busily offering training and no doubt intelligence support.

The root of it is the global power struggle and we, the UK, are as much a part of it as anyone else. BTW, while it is tempting to slag off the Tories, I have absolutely no doubt that Labour will follow exactly the policy when in power. (The guy who might have changed things was Jeremy Corbyn, but we fucked him off as he was an 'extremist'.)

Look in the mirror to see a guilty party. We are all involved unless we are one of the 0.5% who want to radically change foreign policy.

 

[urban genie]

Sorry but what's wrong with "whataboutery" in this instance?

It's weird how Guardian journos keep quiet about the American ownership of clubs which is creeping towards a majority in the PL but shout about Middle Eastern ownership... I can't think why... The US has an awful
Human Rights record and it isn't highlighted by these "journos"..

To be fair if our club decided to host UAE friendlies I doubt many fans would be interested to attend and support them the way those geordies are, and I don't know any blue who defends the UAEs record on Yemen or human rights, we know not all is good about the country our owner is from and we know our country and the US are also ran by the batshit idiots and are no saints but cunts

I won't defend the UAE when it's wrong and also wouldn't use whataboutery to do so seen in the clip, that young lad in the saudi top is exhibiting the silly sportswashing term as they call it tbh, but then less than 5000 have turned up to watch it so just like us most Newcastle fans are not arsed about the owners country, just te investment in the club

but the protesters are also guitly of mass hypocrisy and double standards, as for the guardian a neo liberal pious bag of shite that is full of hipocrisy.