Next Manager after Pep

[RACHACE]

Rumour has it Nagelsman had a buy out put into his Bayern contract because he wants to be able to succeed Pep without too much trouble.

Can't see Bayern Munich accepting that.

 

[BillyShears]

Can't see Bayern Munich accepting that.

Nagelsman has a top agent and Bayern were absolutely desperate for him. I suspect he wrote his own cheque.

 

[Bluesince88]

Pep came to a club that had won two titles and has advanced it that’s undeniable and he’s broken records along the way.

I think RM’s achievement in winning the Cup and the title from the base the club was at when he joined was bigger achievement.

As I said previously, who do the dippers hold in highest regard, Shankley or Paisley?

Seb Coe ran quicker than Roger Bannister. Breaking the 4 minute mile was arguably the greater achievement...

Your Mancini loyalty is admirable. Don’t know how you can ignore the complete difference in playing styles and how unreal we play our football. I’m repeating myself but we are playing better football and winning more trophies without everyone fighting at the training ground most weeks. The irony is lost on you criticising losing a champions league final whilst lauding a manager who’s European record was nothing short of abysmal.

 

[decmancity]

Can't see Bayern Munich accepting that.

Why not?

Bayern don't need a mastermind there to win the domestic trophies, if Nagelsmann doesn't deliver the CL he will be chopped anyway. May as well let someone come in and 'buy' him if needed.

 

[RACHACE]

Nagelsman has a top agent and Bayern were absolutely desperate for him. I suspect he wrote his own cheque.

Maybe but having a clause in the contract to succeed Pep if the opportunity presented itself is basically telling the hierarchy at Germanys biggest club that Manchester City are where I really want to be.

Taking into consideration that Pep only has a contract until 2023, it would seem a bit short term for Bayern to appoint Nagelsman with that clause in place. They're also on the same level as them lot in Salford in the arrogance stakes. I'd be very surprised if that clause was in place.

Not saying it isn't mate, I'd just be very surprised.
Our press would be relentless with their questioning if it was Pep having a clause in his contract like that. Maybe the German press will push Nagelsman a little on it next season.

 

[BillyShears]

Maybe but having a clause in the contract to succeed Pep if the opportunity presented itself is basically telling the hierarchy at Germanys biggest club that Manchester City are where I really want to be.

Taking into consideration that Pep only has a contract until 2023, it would seem a bit short term for Bayern to appoint Nagelsman with that clause in place. They're also on the same level as them lot in Salford in the arrogance stakes. I'd be very surprised if that clause was in place.

Not saying it isn't mate, I'd just be very surprised.
Our press would be relentless with their questioning if it was Pep having a clause in his contract like that. Maybe the German press will push Nagelsman a little on it next season.

I hear you. If there is one, it'll be silly money for a coach.

 

[Manchester_lalala]

Maybe he wouldn’t have dropped that level of clanger pep did, I’m highly critical of it. Rich saying Mancini wouldn’t have pulled that stunt, he got us nowhere near a knock out game let alone a final.

We now play better football, win a lot more trophies yet people still cling to Mancini. Winning that fa cup was amazing. Let’s not forget united aside we had the easiest run to winning that cup. We then won the league as united crumbled, 8 points with 6 games to go. Pressure off us after we fluffed our own lines, a monumental collapse on the rags side lead us to take advantage.

You’ve compared a Covid season which resulted in the league won, league cup won, fa cup semi finalists and champions league runners up and still believe Mancini team and season was better. Compare both their first titles then come back to me, then compare their careers and come back to me, when Pep leaves and we win an awful lot less whoever is in charge, then come back to me ;)

Pep is in another league to Mancini.

 

[OB1]

Fortunately not many but they are out there.

And they all still kiss their Mancini posters before they go to bed.

It's very tiresome and I wish people could let go and not let it cloud their judgement. I was one of the people who wanted Mancini at our club before he was even linked; it's a fairly short list of its type but I can put Merlin and Kun on it but they are all gone and they ain't coming back so you have to move on and try to be objective about what comes next.

No one should denigrate Mancini's achievements at City and no one since perhaps Big Mal has represented this club as manager in such an impactful way.

Bobby is a very good manger, as he is showing again with Italy, but City parted company with him for good reason and now have someone who, quite possibly, one day will be widely acknowledged as the sport's GOAT; there is zero chance that Mancini will be afforded that tribute. And quite simply for me, that is why City need to keep Pep as long as possible.

Whoever succeeds Pep will not be as good but he can still be very successful; not least because he may inherit a great and relatively young team schooled in positional play. That means the next manager probably needs to be one of those guys who follows that discipline or something very similar.

That's why Enrique is a possible. I think Nagelsmann is a good bet and, laugh all you like, I still think Brenda might get the job but plenty can change in the intervening period.

 

[domalino]

Interesting. He'd certainly be a strong candidate. Guess it would depend on when Pep leaves though. I'd be surprised if Nagelsmann was looking to leave Bayern after only a couple of years.

Worth pointing out Bayern managers never last long.

Going back from present -

Flick - 18 months
Kovac - 18 months
Ancelotti - 12 months
Pep - 3 years
Heynckes - 2 years
Van Gaal - 2 years
Klinsmann - 1 year
Hitzfeld - 14 months
Magath - 2 1/2 years

So him leaving after a couple of seasons would be par for the course. I don't think it's a great place to work - both Pep and Flick got tired of the upper management poking their nose into everything, demanding meetings with the manager and mouthing off in the press. Pep Confidential paints the picture that the only likeable person in the club hierarchy is Uli Hoeness, and he's gone now.

 

[AndyP68]

Your Mancini loyalty is admirable. Don’t know how you can ignore the complete difference in playing styles and how unreal we play our football. I’m repeating myself but we are playing better football and winning more trophies without everyone fighting at the training ground most weeks. The irony is lost on you criticising losing a champions league final whilst lauding a manager who’s European record was nothing short of abysmal.

Winning that first cup and first title in the circumstances was, in my opinion, a harder thing to do than take a very good team and established team and make it better.

Knocking United off their perch while they were still qualifying for CL finals.

Yaya, Silva, Aguero, three of the four greatest players in the last decade all signed by RM. Without them we wouldn’t have won the last three titles.

Pep’s broken records sure, but he wasn’t exactly starting from scratch was he. In that respect, RM’s achievement is greater.