Neymar

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The position on Neymar here is puzzling. And I think it has to come from the media branding he's received to the general mainstream audience. In terms of he's a diver, lazy, a mercenary, doesn't care much about the sport, only interested in doing skills, undisciplined.

In terms of being a diver, you have to look at it as being a complete necessity. He's simply the biggest target in world football. Players go into the match with specifically putting it on to Neymar. He's been fouled over 1000 times since 2016. Jack is tied third with Andrea Belotti on the list nearer 700. And he's playing in a very rough league. Something more akin to the Championship with players who are very happy to just chop you down. And his reputation doesn't play into his hands either, making it harder to receive fouls and gets very little protection from the referees. Just look at a compilation of some of the tackles made against him. It becomes pretty ridiculous. And remember this is somebody who has already had his back broken from the physical play against him.

He's not lazy either, in the last year he's had more pressures per 90 (16.49) than Sterling who we'd all say works hard off the ball. But he also beats Son, Salah, Mané, Mahrez, Ferran, Sané, Gnabry, Luis Diaz. If you want Neymar to run, he'll run.

He's a big game player, he shows up and never lets the moment overwhelm him. I thought he was the best player for PSG every time we played them, had a couple great games against us with Barcelona. Played brilliantly in both of his Champions League (particularly against Bayern), the Remontada, his 2014 world cup before his back break.

His stats line up with the best of the best across Europe. Not only does he carry virtually the same xGA of the top wingers in Europe (Sterling, Son, Nkunku, Mané, Sané) at 0.70 (overperforming it with a 0.80 g+a per game), showing he can create and get into positions at an elite level. He comfortably has higher passing and dribbling stats than his peers. With 6.44 progressive passes per 90, 10.32 progressive carries, 2.99 successful dribbles. With a shot creating action per 90 of 5.59 at the 99 percentile of players in the top 5 leagues. He's as complete a footballer you can be in his position. There should be no doubts here.

The only thing you could possibly look at is his 'antics' off the field. Such as his partying, his 'sister month' and his overall fitness. I mean you look at his games played per game and let's be real, it's pretty shocking. But if you can get a hold on it, it could be magic. That's the only real 'problem' with the signing for me.
This is why a loan to me, seems the best deal for city. A trial for want of a better word. The security to send him back if he can’t get fit or he fucks about. I wouldn’t purchase him outright, too much risk. It’s still a gamble to pay a loan fee and a significant portion of his wage packet. He could still not be available for numerous games. But then so could any player at the club. The loan fee to PSG would ultimately cover their side of his wages. So they have that side of it covered and if he settles here and brings his best game to the club then boy he’s one hell of an asset. For nothing except wages.
 

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This is why a loan to me, seems the best deal for city. A trial for want of a better word. The security to send him back if he can’t get fit or he fucks about. I wouldn’t purchase him outright, too much risk. It’s still a gamble to pay a loan fee and a significant portion of his wage packet. He could still not be available for numerous games. But then so could any player at the club. The loan fee to PSG would ultimately cover their side of his wages. So they have that side of it covered and if he settles here and brings his best game to the club then boy he’s one hell of an asset. For nothing except wages.
I've seen him perform well at one world cup tournament, albeit against some lesser players, but overall he never puts the full effort in.


Reminds me of a typical United player,
but not a City player, he'd be the main man there, which I think he needs.


I wonder why he's thinking of leaving or is it just false threats to get a better deal at PSG after the Mbappe gate?
 

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I just cant shake the feeling he's got some big injury/off field issue they can't fix and that's why he seems to be available so incredibly cheap for who he is. His ego, demands and attitude have never seemed an issue with them before.
If he actually is available for that price it's because his wages are insanely high. There are what, like three or four clubs in the world who could actually do that deal? If PSG actually want to move him they can't demand much.
 

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Pretty sure it's coming from PSG side. They want him out as the new manager has made it clear that he's not going to play him
 

TheFatAndUglyPhilFoden

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I've seen him perform well at one world cup tournament, albeit against some lesser players, but overall he never puts the full effort in.
Well is selling him well short. He was the best player in that tournament until he broke his back.

He only played in 1 more world Cup which he was injured going into it. Don't really see the point being made? You're only good if you're great at multiple world cups? Disqualifies most of our squad so.
 

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