Neymar

No one batted a fucking eyelid when the Rags paid £75m for Lukaku, who I'd say is around half the talent of Neymar, and probably around 5% of the marketability of him. Oh, fuck it, let's be honest, Lukaku will be £90m. So, I'd suggest it's Mourinho's fault that PSG had to pay £200m.

I said exactly the same thing to a rag on the way into work this morning.
 
Is it really sustainable?

The Tv bubble will burst one day and ticket prices won't make a ripple in this sort of spend.

What's Mbappe worth this week after this?
When talking about a players worth (Mbappe v Neymar for example) a great deal is not being made of the marketing side of things. Neymar is a global superstar, you go anywhere in the world and there were as many Neymar branded shirts as there are Messi, he has no shortage of sponsors and endorsements, and he is the (hate this term but nevertheless) footballing poster boy of a football mad country, a country with a population of nearly 210 million people. PSG are not daft, they know that an element of their outlay can be offset by this. I cant see this being anything like the case with Mbappe, not yet anyway.
 
When talking about a players worth (Mbappe v Neymar for example) a great deal is not being made of the marketing side of things. Neymar is a global superstar, you go anywhere in the world and there were as many Neymar branded shirts as there are Messi, he has no shortage of sponsors and endorsements, and he is the (hate this term but nevertheless) footballing poster boy of a football mad country, a country with a population of nearly 210 million people. PSG are not daft, they know that an element of their outlay can be offset by this. I cant see this being anything like the case with Mbappe, not yet anyway.

I agree with all of that. He is everywhere

Also, they are talking about him in this mornings Wright Stuff - this goes some way to proving that PSG have got it right. More exposure

However, all this falls down if he turns out to be shit like Pogba. If PSG win the CL no one will mention the fee. If they get knocked out in the group stage and finish runners-up in the league, the transfer will be viewed as a disaster
 
When talking about a players worth (Mbappe v Neymar for example) a great deal is not being made of the marketing side of things. Neymar is a global superstar, you go anywhere in the world and there were as many Neymar branded shirts as there are Messi, he has no shortage of sponsors and endorsements, and he is the (hate this term but nevertheless) footballing poster boy of a football mad country, a country with a population of nearly 210 million people. PSG are not daft, they know that an element of their outlay can be offset by this. I cant see this being anything like the case with Mbappe, not yet anyway.

So if Gabriel Jesus has a better World Cup than him will he become the main man in Brazil?
 
So if Gabriel Jesus has a better World Cup than him will he become the main man in Brazil?
As we know football fans are a fickle bunch, even some of our own, I'd say there's every chance. Neymar does still just have that 'presence' about him though, he's a party boy whereas (thankfully) our Gabby seems the consummate pro. However if Neymars form is just none existent or he gets injured or something and Brazil go on to win the cup on the back of Gabbys goals then there's no doubt in my mind who will be more revered and clubwise his increased exposure etc will make his fee look even more of the bargain it looks now.
 
If they get knocked out in the group stage and finish runners-up in the league, the transfer will be viewed as a disaster

No it won't.

in 09/10 Real Madrid came second in La Liga and went out in the last 16 and no one though Ronaldo was a waste of money.

His performances will dictate how it's viewed.
 
Amazing how Pogba is talked about on here, it really is. He's a bonafide superstar who was worth the £89m United paid.
 
So if Gabriel Jesus has a better World Cup than him will he become the main man in Brazil?

As we know football fans are a fickle bunch, even some of our own, I'd say there's every chance. Neymar does still just have that 'presence' about him though, he's a party boy whereas (thankfully) our Gabby seems the consummate pro. However if Neymars form is just none existent or he gets injured or something and Brazil go on to win the cup on the back of Gabbys goals then there's no doubt in my mind who will be more revered and clubwise his increased exposure etc will make his fee look even more of the bargain it looks now.


No, not a chance.

Neymar's been Brazilian footballs big thing since he was 16. He's been the icon for a home world cup, and been the player who carried them for a few years, plus the captain. When he was 20, he was on the front cover of time magazine called the next Pele, the biggest clubs in the world wanted him from the age of 14.

Gabriel Jesus was a complete unknown until a year ago, he would have to win the ballon d'or or carry Brazil to a world cup single handedly to get up to a similar level - and even then he wouldn't have the longevity of fame to compete with Neymar who's been a household name for nearly a decade.
 
Clearly going to have to pay more attention to Neymar.
So far I've just seen a showboating haircut.
A few tricks and clearly a decent player but hype over substance.
Will come back to admit I was wrong no doubt.
 
No it won't.

in 09/10 Real Madrid came second in La Liga and went out in the last 16 and no one though Ronaldo was a waste of money.

His performances will dictate how it's viewed.

To be fair, La Liga is stronger than the French league
 
No one batted a fucking eyelid when the Rags paid £75m for Lukaku, who I'd say is around half the talent of Neymar, and probably around 5% of the marketability of him. Oh, fuck it, let's be honest, Lukaku will be £90m. So, I'd suggest it's Mourinho's fault that PSG had to pay £200m.
If you take add on's, player's signing on fees and agent fees, I think it's fair to say, yes it's the rags fault the market is so inflated. 2 year's on the bounce they have spent upwards of 100mil on one player. To top it all, one of them left them 4 year's before for less than a million pounds.
 
If you take add on's, player's signing on fees and agent fees, I think it's fair to say, yes it's the rags fault the market is so inflated. 2 year's on the bounce they have spent upwards of 100mil on one player. To top it all, one of them left them 4 year's before for less than a million pounds.

And Maureen himself carted the other.
 
No, not a chance.

Neymar's been Brazilian footballs big thing since he was 16. He's been the icon for a home world cup, and been the player who carried them for a few years, plus the captain. When he was 20, he was on the front cover of time magazine called the next Pele, the biggest clubs in the world wanted him from the age of 14.

Gabriel Jesus was a complete unknown until a year ago, he would have to win the ballon d'or or carry Brazil to a world cup single handedly to get up to a similar level - and even then he wouldn't have the longevity of fame to compete with Neymar who's been a household name for nearly a decade.
Whilst I'm not disputing what you say in the first paragraph, Neymar as I aluded to myself has a 'presence' without doubt. However are you seriously saying if he has a non existent world cup yet Brazil, a football mad nation, whose national team has underperformed by their own high standards go on to win their first world cup in nearly 20 years and achieve this on the back of Gabbys goals, you still think Neymar will be a hotter property than Jesus for years to come?

edit: its worth adding that "neymar has been Brazilian footballs big thing" in the very period of brazilian footballs biggest dry spell
 
I've just seen Klopps comments alongside those of La Liga. It's taken a while and a huge transfer fee but the mask has finally slipped. We all knew FFP was introduced by the cartel, to stop the likes of us and PSG taking over, but they maintained its was to stop clubs spending beyond their means. Klopp and La Liga have clearly forgotten the narrative.
 

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