NHS Strike

[law74]

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An increase in wages when staff are so easy to come by would be government irresponsibility with our money.

So giving a tax cut to the richest was a responsible thing to do with our money?

You know all in this together stuff.


Since the bank crash of 2008 Bankers wages have risen 35% on average and Osborne flew to Brussells to protect their bonuses.


You know all in this together stuff..


I just think you are a WUM who if ever has the misfortune to have to go into hospital will have this thread emailed to the Wrad Matron :)

Don't mention the 21% average increase in wages for CEO's from the FTSE 100 companies in the last year
If Dave & Osbourne are so confident that they have saved the economy then back their talk with real cost of living+ payrises for ALL public servants, not just those that work in the palace of Westminster

 

[Bill]

Midwives weren't allowed to strike properly as they were that low on staff to begin with and had too many emergencies, Caring for mother and baby at the forefront of their minds.

Hardly a piss taking situation in my opinion.

dont like strikers, any proffession. you have a job so stfu and get back to work. be grateful. i realise this was a token gesture so i'll let them off.

Says the man who would rather live anywhere but england if he was younger lol.

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relevence?

half the english population would go if they could.

not the cadgers obviously, life of riley for the uneducated workshy.

 

[nelsons willie]

dont like strikers, any proffession. you have a job so stfu and get back to work. be grateful. i realise this was a token gesture so i'll let them off.

Says the man who would rather live anywhere but england if he was younger lol.

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relevence?

half the english population would go if they could.

not the cadgers obviously, life of riley for the uneducated workshy.

Relevence? Why stay here if you dont like it? You have the right to withdraw your labour and fuck off some where else.. O wait you dont like people having a free will. I wonder how much youve had in handouts. Never carpeted a dole wallers house?

 

[BlueBearBoots]

Some good points made but I've always thought that the pay of any profession is down to supply and demand. Are there less young people applying to train as nurses these days? Will there come a point that the NHS is thought of so badly that there will be no new applicants and the government will have to make it much more attractive to become a nurse or paramedic etc etc ?

Tried to google but can't really find a sensible answer on numbers of applicants over the past 10 years lets say

Try here.

<a class="postlink" href="http://blog.concentra.co.uk/2013/03/20/most-competitive-university-courses-which-courses-are-the-hardest-to-get-onto/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://blog.concentra.co.uk/2013/03/20/ ... -get-onto/</a>


'Incredibly, the number of applications for Nursing more than doubled between 2008 and 2012.'


'Nursing 2012, Applications 212,572, Acceptance 23,836, 11.2%.'

There is a hardly a shortage of people wanting to become nurses.

In tough times loads of people always try to get into secure, state jobs like teaching and nursing because other jobs just aren't there.

An increase in wages when staff are so easy to come by would be government irresponsibility with our money.

So in cold hard reality it's economics. That's what I was trying to find. We may not like it, it may not be fair but as my boss is fond of saying if you don't like your job/pay/conditions then you know where the door is, there are plenty of people just waiting to replace you.

 

[mayo31]

No need for carpet in sunny places, it all tiles

 

[mcmanus]

Wasn't it for 20 mins or something. Wow, damaging. Lol.

Do you not believe in workers going on strike?

 

[urmston]

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An increase in wages when staff are so easy to come by would be government irresponsibility with our money.

So giving a tax cut to the richest was a responsible thing to do with our money?

You know all in this together stuff.


Since the bank crash of 2008 Bankers wages have risen 35% on average and Osborne flew to Brussells to protect their bonuses.


You know all in this together stuff..


I just think you are a WUM who if ever has the misfortune to have to go into hospital will have this thread emailed to the Wrad Matron :)

He is wumming for sure...all this gold plated pension bollocks is simply not true..you gotta pay for it over a long time..is it a good pension..yeah i suppose..gold plated it is not

For the amount paid in by the employee a public sector pension still gives a gigantically good return even with the increased contributions and retirement ages that are being introduced for them.

Private firm pensions which offer the same benefits have nearly all been shut down and are now as rare as hen's teeth. Many people in private work are now on short hours or zero hour contracts specifically designed to exclude them from employer pension rights at all.

The public sector pension deficit is stupendously huge.

For example, when the government sold the Royal Mail for £3 billion or so, it could only get rid of it by keeping its £28 billion pension deficit on the public books.

This just shows you how expensive public employees are to the taxpayer, and why there is certainly no need to be more generous to them at a time when most private sector people are suffering at least as much and haven't got a hope in hell of a big fat, taxpayer guaranteed pension when they give up work.

If you employed by the public it is greedy and inconsiderate to expect pay rises when most of the people who employ you are not getting them and have suffered pay freezes, pay cuts and job losses which make your 5 year pay freeze look wonderful in comparison.

 

[Bill]

Says the man who would rather live anywhere but england if he was younger lol.

??
relevence?

half the english population would go if they could.

not the cadgers obviously, life of riley for the uneducated workshy.

Relevence? Why stay here if you dont like it? You have the right to withdraw your labour and fuck off some where else.. O wait you dont like people having a free will. I wonder how much youve had in handouts. Never carpeted a dole wallers house?

i'll go when i'm ready, as soon as i can stop contributing to this country i will. my money is misused by all concerned. i have never had a "handout" in my life. i work and will do so till i drop, its just in me.

 

[mackenzie]

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relevence?

half the english population would go if they could.

not the cadgers obviously, life of riley for the uneducated workshy.

Relevence? Why stay here if you dont like it? You have the right to withdraw your labour and fuck off some where else.. O wait you dont like people having a free will. I wonder how much youve had in handouts. Never carpeted a dole wallers house?

i'll go when i'm ready, as soon as i can stop contributing to this country i will. my money is misused by all concerned. i have never had a "handout" in my life. i work and will do so till i drop, its just in me.

Bill, a genuine question; have any of your employees claimed Working Tax Credits?

 

[mayo31]

I heard they have claimed for lost fingers