Nicola Sturgeon

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Ban-jani said:
I reckon it’s a fairly common physiological thingamajig where someone suspects something but it’s more convenient, comforting and/or satisfying to just ignore it and carry on as if it’s not happening.

She probably at least had an idea but thought if I ignore it, it might go away.
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Yes and much of that stuff operates on a subconscious level, so she might not have even realised she was doing it.
 
Ban-jani said:
I reckon it’s a fairly common physiological thingamajig where someone suspects something but it’s more convenient, comforting and/or satisfying to just ignore it and carry on as if it’s not happening.

She probably at least had an idea but thought if I ignore it, it might go away.
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or destroy her career, her party and the Scottish government. Given the red flags (and I'm not talking about motor homes - the pair of them were £200,000+ earners and can afford a few luxuries) of everyone involved in the finance of the SNP (except Murrell) resigning because they couldn't get anywhere near the facts, it is incomprehensible that she didn't 1) understand the potential fallout if there was wrong doing 2) conduct a full financial review to establish the facts. In fact faced with all the multiple signs she did absolutely nothing.

I am so torn on this as previously like most of the world that isn't biased against her, I thought she was a very clever politician. I mean really smart.
Shows how wrong you can be. There are only two potential conclusions. Dishonesty or Incompetence. Both are pretty much a death knell for any politician. I still think this has the potential to bring down the Scottish Government if Swinney continues to refuse a proper enquiry. I must check out the LK interview as there are a series of questions that any journalist worth their salt should be asking about her actions within the party.
 
Have watched the interview. Thought she came across as pretty plausible, but still think she’s finished.

Agree with the advice she was given about not answering questions in interview, given it was followed up by a detailed written statement answering them. Her head will have been all over the place. They did their job for her there.
 
Blue Mist said:
My take on it is that once she realised what he was doing it would be political suicide for her to expose it. She ignored it to save her own political career.
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The moment she kept him on instead of saying as leader, I don’t want any sort of accusation of favouritism etc was the second she was finished politically if she or the public became aware of any wrongdoing and agree, I think she did know, she had to know and couldn’t then do anything knowing it finished her and that’s her biggest crime here.
 
From the LK interview:

'As party leader Sturgeon shared responsibility for monitoring the SNP's accounts. When asked if she had done enough when others in the party were raising concerns about the SNP's finances, she said: "I reject completely the notion that people were trying to alert the party to the kind of behaviour that Peter pled guilty to on Monday".

She also said she wanted to be careful not to do anything that would "step on the toes" of the police investigation into SNP finances.

She said if there had been anything in the accounts which could have alerted her the police "might have reached a different position" on her'

I find her wording quite interesting. Of course they were not flagging 'your husband is embezzling from the party' how could they - they couldn't get near the finances which is why they resigned. They were flagging that there was a serious problem of transparency and governance though - sufficient for her to become personally involved.

In the months March 21 - July 21, there were a series of 'red flags' which gave her every opportunity to get personally involved in getting to the bottom of why there were complaints about SNP donations, why her finance audit committee had resigned on mass, why her Treasurer, Douglas Chapman had resigned amid some pretty telling claims in his resignation communication.
And yet she didn't want to get involved as it would hamper a police investigation that hadn't started until July.

Maybe she is telling the truth but with Swinney blocking any further review there are a great many questions remain unanswered which will continue to be very damaging politically. It needs transparency.
 
blueinsa said:
The moment she kept him on instead of saying as leader, I don’t want any sort of accusation of favouritism etc was the second she was finished politically if she or the public became aware of any wrongdoing and agree, I think she did know, she had to know and couldn’t then do anything knowing it finished her and that’s her biggest crime here.
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her only option was to find out what had happened - any competent audit might have identified problems with the more conspicuous items. Then expose it irrespective of the consequences. Transparency would in the long term been less damaging than what is now going to play out.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
or destroy her career, her party and the Scottish government. Given the red flags (and I'm not talking about motor homes - the pair of them were £200,000+ earners and can afford a few luxuries) of everyone involved in the finance of the SNP (except Murrell) resigning because they couldn't get anywhere near the facts, it is incomprehensible that she didn't 1) understand the potential fallout if there was wrong doing 2) conduct a full financial review to establish the facts. In fact faced with all the multiple signs she did absolutely nothing.

I am so torn on this as previously like most of the world that isn't biased against her, I thought she was a very clever politician. I mean really smart.
Shows how wrong you can be. There are only two potential conclusions. Dishonesty or Incompetence. Both are pretty much a death knell for any politician. I still think this has the potential to bring down the Scottish Government if Swinney continues to refuse a proper enquiry. I must check out the LK interview as there are a series of questions that any journalist worth their salt should be asking about her actions within the
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Sturgeon was with Murrell for over 20 years, she was smart enough to become the first minister of Scotland, I can only draw one conclusion for me “dishonest and incompetent”
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Have watched the interview. Thought she came across as pretty plausible, but still think she’s finished.

Agree with the advice she was given about not answering questions in interview, given it was followed up by a detailed written statement answering them. Her head will have been all over the place. They did their job for her there.
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"The lady doth protest too much, methinks".
 
Saddleworth2 said:
or destroy her career, her party and the Scottish government. Given the red flags (and I'm not talking about motor homes - the pair of them were £200,000+ earners and can afford a few luxuries) of everyone involved in the finance of the SNP (except Murrell) resigning because they couldn't get anywhere near the facts, it is incomprehensible that she didn't 1) understand the potential fallout if there was wrong doing 2) conduct a full financial review to establish the facts. In fact faced with all the multiple signs she did absolutely nothing.

I am so torn on this as previously like most of the world that isn't biased against her, I thought she was a very clever politician. I mean really smart.
Shows how wrong you can be. There are only two potential conclusions. Dishonesty or Incompetence. Both are pretty much a death knell for any politician. I still think this has the potential to bring down the Scottish Government if Swinney continues to refuse a proper enquiry. I must check out the LK interview as there are a series of questions that any journalist worth their salt should be asking about her actions within the party.
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A government that would probably look much different had the hearings not been delayed.
 
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