I wonder if they had such debates when moving from Hyde Road to Maine Road!!!
Because the railways are not going to spend multi-millions on a train service that would be used for part of a day on a very short length of track for a maximum of 26-27 home matches a year?So why has this 'solution' been ignored ?
Please City, don’t name a stand after a player. I love Sergio, but there could be bigger legends than him in 20/30 years time. I like the three statues outside the ground now, but are we going to keep on building them for every great player that leaves the club? Stand namings should be reserved for a few decades.
We have a stand named after Colin Bell! Arguably we have bigger legends now but he was iconic at the time and still is now. Aguero for that goal will always be a hero. Others might win more or break records but as the scorer of such an iconic goal and our record scorer he is more than deserving of having a stand named after him.
If you ask any non-City supporter about Manchester City it is his goal they would talk about. Not the time he scored it. It has to be his stand! Where might we have been without his goal? Maybe the damage from that moment means we consistently fail to win the league? Cup final goals are huge and plenty of players have brought further success. Yaya at Wembley. But when it comes to home games that remains the goal that stands out. The come back against Villa was arguably better but the context to his goal and the fact it was a battle against the rags and had been so long, and the goal coming at that end...there's no other answer!
We have a stand named after Colin Bell! Arguably we have bigger legends now but he was iconic at the time and still is now. Aguero for that goal will always be a hero. Others might win more or break records but as the scorer of such an iconic goal and our record scorer he is more than deserving of having a stand named after him.
If you ask any non-City supporter about Manchester City it is his goal they would talk about. Not the time he scored it. It has to be his stand! Where might we have been without his goal? Maybe the damage from that moment means we consistently fail to win the league? Cup final goals are huge and plenty of players have brought further success. Yaya at Wembley. But when it comes to home games that remains the goal that stands out. The come back against Villa was arguably better but the context to his goal and the fact it was a battle against the rags and had been so long, and the goal coming at that end...there's no other answer!
Could you not say the same about Paul Dickov though. Without him we might never have made it where we are now.
It’s very difficult to name a stand after a player. I’d argue trautman and sumerbee have as much right as aguero to have a stand named after them.
Sumerbee for example has served our club for decades and he was integral to one of our most successful eras
Let’s say foden wins 6 more league titles and gets a hat trick to win the champions league, I’d argue he’d deserve one.
It’s probably easier to name a home end after a street or area as done previously. The ardwick end for example
When you think that Old Trafford is serviced by three Metrolink stops very close by that service six different Met lines, a train station, larger more free flowing roads with a Motorway close by and even water taxis on the canal from Sale… and we have just one Met stop that goes in just two directions and the odd buses but with smaller less free flowing roads and no Motorway nearby… someone somewhere at City or TfGM should be thinking ‘if they’re increasing capacity and there’s going to be an arena opening, surely more transport links are required?!’It does make you wonder why this hasn’t indeed been considered before, but perhaps it’s just not possible.
However as that existing tram line gets more and more crowded surely another connection could be considered. It would take off a lot of pressure off that existing tram line, and effectively it would bypass the City centre through to Victoria. A connection to Piccadilly would be costly but surely worthwhile from a profitable point of view. Their tills could sh1t money in the future and everyone is a winner
We’d easily get that if the prices were right.What do you think the most City could realistically average if it was built (for league games)
Could we average 70k if the stadium was big enough?
I wouldn’t name it after a player. I always think that street names or town names or nicknames like the Kippax Stand and Stretford End or the Spion Kop are much better names than player name stands.The Bert Trautman stand for me or just don’t name it after a player. The Ardwick End for instance.
Both clubs are pretty much constantly sold out so I'm not sure what the point of comparing to anything else is? Pricing is another topic entirely. I can't say I've seen any sensible answers as to how you get only local fans in at cheap prices when the "tourists" could equally buy the same tickets?We’d easily get that if the prices were right.
City (and United) are fucking clueless when it comes to getting fans in our stadium. More people attend football matches at all the other clubs in our conurbation than they do City or United games.
City’s best attendance this season is 53,453
United’s best attendance this season is 73,711
All our clubs from the Championship to the the North West Counties Premier Division - 9th tier - (that includes 18 clubs and there are more lower down who also get a few thousand fan between them but there’s no official stats) best attendances from last season combined comes to 75,034!
Nobody’s telling me that there are more fans of all the other clubs combined than there are City or United fans in our conurbation. The two clubs are run by people who don’t understand Manchester, Mancunians, the local or national economy/incomes… they’re just run by people who need to justify their salaries and bonuses by showing revenue spreadsheets to their bosses.
City could get 65,000 from our Manchester support alone, never mind those who live elsewhere. City have pulled away from our Manchester support in my opinion though. I think the City boardroom are more interested in getting people from anywhere else into our corporate areas than they are interested in getting our local fans into the normal seats.
16,000 season tickets at Bayern are priced at €170, Liverpool price all child Premier League matchday tickets in every stand at £9 and they give discounts to people with an L postcode… those two clubs seem to understand and want to look after their local fans but City and United don’t.
This new stand has the opportunity to look after us though. Cheaper tickets and priority to those with an M postcode would be brilliant. But will they understand this?
Is that Kanye's kids?Don’t know why they don’t just go with North, East, South, West?
Not everything has to named after someone.
People need to understand how the railways work around Manchester by reading Railforums.co.uk or SSC. Rail problems around Mcr are all interlinked and therefore any improvements have to be at a benefit to the whole region, not just one entity. The Castlefield corridor (Deansgate to Piccadilly) is the main issue and that was made worse by the Ordsall Chord in 2017 which allowed trains from Leeds etc to run from Victoria to Piccadilly and on to the airport. Now some think the problem is the Windsor link which joined Salford Crescent to the Castlefield corridor in 1989 and are suggesting that is cut. I believe the line that runs beside the stadium was considered as a route to run around Manchester but I guess it was more costly than Ordsall and doesn’t connect directly to the airport (it would mean running into Piccadilly and reversing back out).Because the railways are not going to spend multi-millions on a train service that would be used for part of a day on a very short length of track for a maximum of 26-27 home matches a year?
I hate to keep trying to inject realism into pipe dreams. But someone needs to.
People need to understand how the railways work around Manchester by reading Railforums.co.uk or SSC. Rail problems around Mcr are all interlinked and therefore any improvements have to be at a benefit to the whole region, not just one entity. The Castlefield corridor (Deansgate to Piccadilly) is the main issue and that was made worse by the Ordsall Chord in 2017 which allowed trains from Leeds etc to run from Victoria to Piccadilly and on to the airport. Now some think the problem is the Windsor link which joined Salford Crescent to the Castlefield corridor in 1989 and are suggesting that is cut. I believe the line that runs beside the stadium was considered as a route to run around Manchester but I guess it was more costly than Ordsall and doesn’t connect directly to the airport (it would mean running into Piccadilly and reversing back out).
In short, only if the powers that be decide a new route to the airport would benefit everyone will any rail solution happen. It would need a lot of track improvements and probably not involve Man Piccadilly so unlikely.
More likely (much much cheaper) is using the line as tram-train to connect Hadfield to Victoria.
It would also be nice for Edin to be there as without his goal for the 2-2 we wouldn’t have been in a position for 93:20. Maybe even invite mad Mario back to recognise the importance of his assist.Imagine if Sergio had missed the shot. The Rags would have won the title, and we'd have never heard the last of it, like they have.
As you say, ask any Rag, any PL football fan around the world what the most famous PL goal ever is and they will all say Sergio's goal that won City the PL title at the North stand end of the Etihad.
It would be fitting to name the stand after Sergio, regardless of his statue, and for Sergio to be there when it's full, and to open the new North stand home end.
Exactly !!! And the same issue will be when they open the new stand thinking it’s gonna turn the Etihad into La Bombonera, when in reality it will be filled with tourists that sit down and don’t sing.Both clubs are pretty much constantly sold out so I'm not sure what the point of comparing to anything else is? Pricing is another topic entirely. I can't say I've seen any sensible answers as to how you get only local fans in at cheap prices when the "tourists" could equally buy the same tickets?
We’d easily get that if the prices were right.
City (and United) are fucking clueless when it comes to getting fans in our stadium. More people attend football matches at all the other clubs in our conurbation than they do City or United games.
City’s best attendance this season is 53,453
United’s best attendance this season is 73,711
All our clubs from the Championship to the the North West Counties Premier Division - 9th tier - (that includes 18 clubs and there are more lower down who also get a few thousand fan between them but there’s no official stats) best attendances from last season combined comes to 75,034!
Nobody’s telling me that there are more fans of all the other clubs combined than there are City or United fans in our conurbation. The two clubs are run by people who don’t understand Manchester, Mancunians, the local or national economy/incomes… they’re just run by people who need to justify their salaries and bonuses by showing revenue spreadsheets to their bosses.
City could get 65,000 from our Manchester support alone, never mind those who live elsewhere. City have pulled away from our Manchester support in my opinion though. I think the City boardroom are more interested in getting people from anywhere else into our corporate areas than they are interested in getting our local fans into the normal seats.
16,000 season tickets at Bayern are priced at €170, Liverpool price all child Premier League matchday tickets in every stand at £9 and they give discounts to people with an L postcode… those two clubs seem to understand and want to look after their local fans but City and United don’t.
This new stand has the opportunity to look after us though. Cheaper tickets and priority to those with an M postcode would be brilliant. But will they understand this?