North Stand Construction Discussion

I'm going to go out on a limb and say there will be no hospitality (and there never was any intention of making it corporate for the really hard of reading) at the front of level 2, zero, zilch, nada.

Can people calm down now and stop boring everyone?
 
jrb said:
Are those prices for season tickets? I thought Joes, etc was priced on a match by match bases, rather then season tickets.
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Yeah they carried on where 9230 ended, the ST prices published in 2015 when it opened but not since.
 
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Psychedelic Casual said:
So why did the club invite the 1894 lads down and ask them what they wanted? Why did the club put out surveys to fans and ask them what they wanted? Why did the club give us all the impression that this was going to be a vocal stand where we would just replicate SSL1 on a grander scale, only to then put plans out with hospitality on the front rows and not have safe standing?
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Proves my point just accept that is the way of life,your lucky you can either go or stay away you have choice that I have not got due to age and ill health. just go and enjoy your self. sounding like rags we want this we want that you will be wearing zebra pants soon.
 
Centurions said:
I'm going to go out on a limb and say there will be no hospitality (and there never was any intention of making it corporate for the really hard of reading) at the front of level 2, zero, zilch, nada.

Can people calm down now and stop boring everyone?
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‘Why don’t you’ log out and do something less boring instead? ;-)

The FOC’s will know.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
So why did the club invite the 1894 lads down and ask them what they wanted? Why did the club put out surveys to fans and ask them what they wanted? Why did the club give us all the impression that this was going to be a vocal stand where we would just replicate SSL1 on a grander scale, only to then put plans out with hospitality on the front rows and not have safe standing?
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Maybe because the plans were all ready to put forward and now too many folk are getting their knickers in a twist over something that isn't happening?
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
So why did the club invite the 1894 lads down and ask them what they wanted? Why did the club put out surveys to fans and ask them what they wanted? Why did the club give us all the impression that this was going to be a vocal stand where we would just replicate SSL1 on a grander scale, only to then put plans out with hospitality on the front rows and not have safe standing?
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We don’t know what the plans are though, we know what’s in the planning application but that was done before the 1894 meeting and before the consultation. The application done months ago might not reflect current thinking and has provision for the whole tier to be safe standing if the club decide to go that way. The planning application provides for any option.
 
blueparrot said:
So, as a very rough guide I would reckon if we are taking 93:20 type seats and bar, my guess would be around the £1100 mark for the 600 seats, that are currently just under £700. At todays prices. Though as @Corky posted that gets you up to 3 home cup games extra.
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648x£1100 = £720,000 (roughly) a season.

Again it’s all conjecture as we don‘t know what the club are discussing and planning.

648 GA seats going off current SSL2 prices and possible season ticket price increases over the next 3 years could be £750? 648x£750 = £486,000.

The difference is £234,000!

Absolute peanuts for the sake of not having a NSL2 full of GA singers and fans.
 
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Centurions said:
I'm going to go out on a limb and say there will be no hospitality (and there never was any intention of making it corporate for the really hard of reading) at the front of level 2, zero, zilch, nada.

Can people calm down now and stop boring everyone?
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Go on...
 
jrb said:
648x£1100 = £720,000 (roughly) a season.

Again it’s all conjecture as we don‘t know what the club are discussing and planning.

648 GA seats going off current SSL2 prices and possible season ticket price increases over the next 3 years could be £750? 648x£750 = £486,000.

The difference is £234,000!

Absolute peanuts for the sake of not having a NSL2 full of GA singers and fans.
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Plus whatever the bar takings are. Which won't be insignificant.
 
Coatigan said:
Plus whatever the bar takings are. Which won't be insignificant.
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And food sales.

It really is madness isn‘t, that a stand we all want, a proper home end, could be sacrificed in part because of an additional £250,000 (gIve or take) a season, when you consider how much additional money and revenue City will make from 9000+ extra seats, a sky bar and restaurant, a roof walk, a hotel, a new museum, a 3000 capacity fan plaza full of bars and restaurants, and a bigger souvenir store, etc.

Drop the f*cking hospitality area at the front of L2 please, and give the fans what they want, which is a proper home end filled with GA fans, be it season ticket holders or match day ticket sales.
 
blueparrot said:
Don’t know, the 93:20 bar isn’t any dearer than the other bars, bit more food selection but still fairly basic food, will those fans spend more than other fans on the concourses? Maybe but not huge amounts.
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As opposed to no bar at all though. That bar could easily take in anything feom 10k to 20k a game. 30ish home games a season, you are talking 500k, on top ofnthe 250k jrb has speculated for the seata themselves.

All hypothetical of course, assuming it goes that way.
 
jrb said:
And food sales.

It really is madness isn‘t, that a stand we all want, a proper home end, could be sacrificed in part because of an additional £250,000 (gIve or take) a season, when you consider how much additional money and revenue City will make from 9000+ extra seats, a sky bar and restaurant, a roof walk, a hotel, a new museum, a 3000 capacity fan plaza full of bars and restaurants, and a bigger souvenir store, etc.

Drop the f*cking hospitality area at the front of L2 please, and give the fans what they want, which is a proper home end filled with GA fans, be it season ticket holders or match day ticket sales.
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If it is true, and turns out to be the case, yes I agree. Even pushing it to say 1m a season including bar takings and other sales that come with it, agree, peanuts in the grand scheme.
 
Coatigan said:
As opposed to no bar at all though. That bar could easily take in anything feom 10k to 20k a game. 30ish home games a season, you are talking 500k, on top ofnthe 250k jrb has speculated for the seata themselves.

All hypothetical of course, assuming it goes that way.
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Imagine how many pints 648 GA’s would consume on a match day. :-)

The new bar at the back of SSL1 is absolutely rammed. The turover from a void, to a few beer carts, to the new bar serving 1000’s of pints every match day must be massive.
 
Coatigan said:
As opposed to no bar at all though. That bar could easily take in anything feom 10k to 20k a game. 30ish home games a season, you are talking 500k, on top ofnthe 250k jrb has speculated for the seata themselves.

All hypothetical of course, assuming it goes that way.
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Not really I’m assuming if there were no premium seats and seperate bar the people sat in those seats would use a regular bar on the concourse, like you say though everything about it is hypothetical.
 
Hibbertstreetkid said his Joe's was £2,040 this season going up to £2160 next season.

The original planner had them increasing every half a block towards the centre, and they appear to have risen much higher than 9320 prices.
 
Coatigan said:
If it is true, and turns out to be the case, yes I agree. Even pushing it to say 1m a season including bar takings and other sales that come with it, agree, peanuts in the grand scheme.
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There’s a hospitality area proposed at the back of L2. Expand that further instead. Expand the other hospitality areas/seating when fans vacate to the new stand.
 
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