North Stand Construction Discussion

[Big Joe Corrigan]

Definitely a big waiting list for season tickets

There is a big demand for new season tickets, but no evidence of a waiting list.

 

[MrCheeseGrater]

I don’t disagree with that, but would those in the current singing blocks in th South stand relocate to the second tier of the North. Maybe if encouraged they would ,but don’t know how willing they’d be myself?

I agree that is probably the major issue, how to encourage those in SSL1 to move. There will have to be incentives, publicity and encouragement from the clu and fan groups to make it work

The new bar and DJ in SSL1 isn’t helping. :-) Saying that, the pull of a 3000 capacity fanzone, City Hall, and being in the home end would be very tempting for most match going City fans, never mind fans in SSL1.

Hopefully City Hall and any new concourse area in the stand is built in a similar style to the SSL1 bar, it's excellent and would be great to see in the North Stand.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

You don't think thousands wouldn't snap your hand off for a season ticket??? Get real mate

for new season tickets yes, but we’ve got no idea about loads of people being on a waiting list. As far as I know if your a citizen member your in the criteria for a season ticket - could be wrong on that though

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

for new season tickets yes, but we’ve got no idea about loads of people being on a waiting list. As far as I know if your a citizen member your in the criteria for a season ticket - could be wrong on that though

I hope when/if new season tickets become available, that Cityzens points are used for the criteria, and not just a free for all to anyone who is a member.

 

[pride in battle]

There is a big demand for new season tickets, but no evidence of a waiting list.

It's the same thing, if City offered 10 thousand season tickets they would be snapped up

 

[pride in battle]

for new season tickets yes, but we’ve got no idea about loads of people being on a waiting list. As far as I know if your a citizen member your in the criteria for a season ticket - could be wrong on that though

I'm talking about demand for season tickets, it will be huge.

 

[jrb]

I agree that is probably the major issue, how to encourage those in SSL1 to move. There will have to be incentives, publicity and encouragement from the clu and fan groups to make it work

Hopefully City Hall and any new concourse area in the stand is built in a similar style to the SSL1 bar, it's excellent and would be great to see in the North Stand.

It would, but I think it’s going to be much better, even spectacular. City will want to make a statement with it, not only for domestic games, but for CL games, and the UEFA Euro 2028. They will also want to drive as much match day revenue from it as possible by tempting fans in early abd getting them to stay after the match.

We had no idea what the new bar on SSL1 looked like until I got lucky and took some pictures of it whilst I was helping with the banners on SSL1 during the week. As soon as I saw it I knew it was going to be a huge success, and it has been. The beer is decent, the service is fast, there are plenty of places to sit if you get to there early enough, and the DJ spinning the Manchester tunes makes it feel like a proper bar. The DJ does need to play some different tunes though.

 

[pride in battle]

It would, but I think it’s going to be much better, even spectacular. City will want to make a statement with it, not only for domestic games, but for CL games, and the UEFA Euro 2028. They will also want to drive as much match day revenue from it as possible by tempting fans in early abd getting them to stay after the match.

We had no idea what the new bar on SSL1 looked like until I got lucky and took some pictures of it whilst I was helping with the banners on SSL1 during the week. As soon as I saw it I knew it was going to be a huge success, and it has been. The beer is decent, the service is fast, there are plenty of places to sit if you get to there early enough, and the DJ spinning the Manchester tunes makes it feel like a proper bar. The DJ does need to play some different tunes though.

The SS1 bar has been a huge success, replicate this but on a much bigger scale in the North Stand and it should be epic :)

 

[Buckshaw Blue]

I hope when/if new season tickets become available, that Cityzens points are used for the criteria, and not just a free for all to anyone who is a member.

You would like to think common sense would prevail but after the Real Madrid fiasco, it wouldn’t surprise me if it was first come, first served. The club might even use the carrot of applying for new season tickets as a way of flogging more memberships.

My guess is there will be no new season tickets available even after the north stand extension, as we already have a high percentage of season ticket holders compared to other clubs. And the club can make more money by flogging matchday tickets as opposed to season tickets.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

You don't think thousands wouldn't snap your hand off for a season ticket??? Get real mate

I wish I could go again and it’s nothing to do with money.

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

You would like to think common sense would prevail but after the Real Madrid fiasco, it wouldn’t surprise me if it was first come, first served. The club might even use the carrot of applying for new season tickets as a way of flogging more memberships.

My guess is there will be no new season tickets available even after the north stand extension, as we already have a high percentage of season ticket holders compared to other clubs. And the club can make more money by flogging matchday tickets as opposed to season tickets.

Sadly I agree with your last paragraph, individual matchday tickets make more sense to the club commercially.

 

[jrb]

You would like to think common sense would prevail but after the Real Madrid fiasco, it wouldn’t surprise me if it was first come, first served. The club might even use the carrot of applying for new season tickets as a way of flogging more memberships.

My guess is there will be no new season tickets available even after the north stand extension, as we already have a high percentage of season ticket holders compared to other clubs. And the club can make more money by flogging matchday tickets as opposed to season tickets.

The club aren't going to shift 8000 more match day tickets for the majority of the PL games. Not a chance. They know that United, Liverpool and Arsenal will sell out . The other games won't

The club can't have a awaiting list of fans for season tickets then only offer 8000 match day seats. There would be a massive backlash from disgruntled City fans who have waited patiently and for a long time for a season ticket.

A 50/50 or 60/40 split of season tickets and match day tickets for the expanded North stand would be about right. It won't happen, but making NSL2 all season ticket would be a great, bar hospitality.

 

[blueparrot]

You would like to think common sense would prevail but after the Real Madrid fiasco, it wouldn’t surprise me if it was first come, first served. The club might even use the carrot of applying for new season tickets as a way of flogging more memberships.

My guess is there will be no new season tickets available even after the north stand extension, as we already have a high percentage of season ticket holders compared to other clubs. And the club can make more money by flogging matchday tickets as opposed to season tickets.

Pretty sure there will be new S/C .Don't know how many, personally hoping about 65% S/C 35% matchday.Plus I'd make sure a few blocks of rows were ringfenced for Match day only and not allow any S/C relocations into those seats.

 

[supercity88]

I don’t have a problem with the hotel room balconies or the hospitality seats at the back of NSL2. It was the hospitality seats at the front of NSL2 that threw me, and to be honest, disappointed me, when I looked at the PA. I knew hospitality would be included on NSL2 somewhere, but I honestly didn’t think it would be on the first 7 rows of NSL2, considering the amount of hospitality we already have in the stadium, and the opportunity to expand those hospitality areas once 8000 fans relocate to NSL2.

Can 700 hospitality match day seats really generate much more revenue than normal match day seats directly behind them?

We don’t know the pricing structure yet for the (season ticket) seats on NSL2. Will they be comparable or cheaper, seeing as it’s the ‘offcial home end’, to the (season ticket) seats on SSL3?

TBF to the club those (season ticket) seat prices on SSL3 are very fair. If those season ticket prices were replicated or made even cheaper on NSL3, that would be great. Obviously you have factor in another 2 possible season ticket prices rises before the North stand expansion is finished.

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I know mate, I get your reservations/concerns.

I just prefer to take the positives now. Whilst it could have been better, it could have been miles worse as well. It's all speculation for the GA+ seats. They might be a lot more expensive or they might be a small increase and actually not impact things too much. It would be better to bury them within the stand so they're masked/surrounded and it would be better again for them not to be there at all, and to provide other areas once people have relocated. But they could have thought, fuck it we've got a singing section now and that's enough, let's milk this new stand for all its worth.

There needs to be an active push from somewhere in order to ensure the new stand is a home end. It's got all the facilities you'd want with the new city square. It just needs to be priced appropriately. Even if some want to stay by the away fans, we can still get a lot of people in there to sing and cheerlead the ground. And combined with an increase in the number of people anyway it should ramp things up substantially.

 

[Coatigan]

Probably move than 300 million, it's a huge undertaking, don't forget we are also building the biggest hotel in Manchester.

What are you basing that on out of interest. In a 'mature discussion' kind of way.

 

[Coatigan]

It's the same thing, if City offered 10 thousand season tickets they would be snapped up

I have seen people arguing there would be no or little demand for additional season tickets, and the club are targeting individual match day ticket sales to anyone etc.

I seriously doubt they would go and build an extra 8000 seats, disrupting the stand for a couple seasons in the meantime, without Knowing that there is a real demand and for the long term.

They could easily build all the other stuff without touching the stand if they wanted the extra revenue, if there wasn't an overwhelming demand for additional seats.

Obviously I don't think they are all for set for season ticket sales, but I would bet a large proportion are, and I can definitely believe the reports of the waiting lists and the demand.

 

[waspish]

The club aren't going to shift 8000 more match day tickets for the majority of the PL games. Not a chance. They know that United, Liverpool and Arsenal will sell out . The other games won't

The club can't have a awaiting list of fans for season tickets then only offer 8000 match day seats. There would be a massive backlash from disgruntled City fans who have waited patiently and for a long time for a season ticket.

A 50/50 or 60/40 split of season tickets and match day tickets for the expanded North stand would be about right. It won't happen, but making NSL2 all season ticket would be a great, bar hospitality.

We would if they lower the tickets to the "Lesser" teams

 

[HelloCity]

The club aren't going to shift 8000 more match day tickets for the majority of the PL games. Not a chance. They know that United, Liverpool and Arsenal will sell out . The other games won't

The club can't have a awaiting list of fans for season tickets then only offer 8000 match day seats. There would be a massive backlash from disgruntled City fans who have waited patiently and for a long time for a season ticket.

A 50/50 or 60/40 split of season tickets and match day tickets for the expanded North stand would be about right. It won't happen, but making NSL2 all season ticket would be a great, bar hospitality.

I remember the same being said before the last expansion because of the empty seats.

We were in a position earlier this season where every single home ticket was sold out months in advance.

The only time they’re more available is midweek games against lower teams (when fixtures have be moved) and when the ticket exchange opens up.

We’d have sold 62k for Huddersfield even.

 

[pride in battle]

What are you basing that on out of interest. In a 'mature discussion' kind of way.

I'm basing it on facts.

 

[pride in battle]

What are you basing that on out of interest. In a 'mature discussion' kind of way.

Are you on about the size of the hotel ?