North Stand Construction Discussion

[Coatigan]

It's right though, a 350 million pound development that's no where near finished and they 'don't like it' ??? As a City fan to come out with that is embarassing, all the shit we get thrown at us and our own fans...i say that loosely, have a pop ! Well you know what ? Support some other fucking team....

You seem to add 50m to it every time we speak ;)

 

[jrb]

Interesting comments at the end. Last sentence. Highlighted.

I wonder which other hotel operators pitched for the hotel?

Adela Cristea - (Vice President, Business Development UK & Ireland at Radisson Hotel Group) - Linkedin

I am proud to announce that Manchester City Football Club’s new hotel will be affiliated with Radisson Hotel Group!

The 401-room hotel, known as The Medlock, earmarked to open in late 2026, will join the Radisson Blu family and will form part of the Club’s £300 million development at the Etihad Campus. The guests will have access to a wide variety of food and drink outlets, a roof walk, museum experience and the UK’s largest indoor arena, Co-op Live.

This global flagship hotel is a fantastic addition to our growing portfolio of stadium-based properties in the UK, such as Allianz Stadium Twickenham, Home of England rugby and the renowned cricket ground, Edgbaston Stadium.

It is an absolute pleasure to work with Roel de Vries, Gavin Makel, David Falk and the team, many thanks for your trust and looking forward to a great collaboration!

Jon Colley and Valor Hospitality Partners, delighted to work with you on this exciting project!

Owen Pritchard, Julian Kemp, Katie Goertz, thank you for a highly professional, yet intense operator selection process!

Also.

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[WARBABY]

Yea think the hotel looks shite tbh

Well don't look at it then

 

[pride in battle]

You seem to add 50m to it every time we speak ;)

I've always quoted 350...that's what i've been told the final figure will be :)

 

[WARBABY]

Not everything can be award winning like Fort Dunlop. People I met at Shed KM two decades ago were really proud of it.

Yes but even Fort Dunlop got tyred

 

[jrb]

Yes but even Fort Dunlop got tyred

That joke is worn out and flat now.

Thank you.

Good night!

 

[I'm not really here]

Yes but even Fort Dunlop got tyred

Think you need to tread carefully there mate

 

[Coatigan]

I've always quoted 350...that's what i've been told the final figure will be :)

400 million ish

380/400 million is what I've been told from a very reputable source.

There are more, but no point posting them really.

The official reported and claimed figure has always been 300m. Has never changed.

Anything else, is speculation, rumour, or people exaggerating for whatever reason.

And given it implies the club have fucked up, and you don't like anyone seeming to 'criticise' the club, it really isn't helpful.

 

[pride in battle]

There are more, but no point posting them really.

The official reported and claimed figure has always been 300m. Has never changed.

Anything else, is speculation, rumour, or people exaggerating for whatever reason.

And given it implies the club have fucked up, and you don't like anyone seeming to 'criticise' the club, it really isn't helpful.

Wow i've got my own stalker !

 

[Coatigan]

Wow i've got my own stalker !

Haha, don't flatter yourself.

I've made the point before.

All good though mate! You want to add an entire hotel or office block to the cost, fire away. I'll say my bit and round and round we go.

I don't doubt you have been told what you have btw, nor that they are credible either, fwiw.

 

[Blue and true]

Are we allowed to say it looks incredibly uninspiring?

It looks like a hospital. Very brutalist.

 

[Asa's left peg]

Does anyone remember seeing a interesting fact about FFP and what can be considered for inclusion. I seem to remember that anything like hotels or shopping malls or concert venues had to be within a certain proximity to the stadium or actually attached?

Can't find it now. Could be the meds!

 

[Penders1957]

It looks like a hospital. Very brutalist.

I think whilst it’s not architecturaly outstanding it’s best described as functional, after all it’s a hotel in Bradford when all is said and done

 

[Coatigan]

Looks like the Werham Hogg office block from The Office has had a slight upgrade.

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While this is a joke that keeps giving and has always made me chuckle,

I think it is safe to say from what we can now see on site so far, that it won't actually end up looking like that.

Pending the horizontal panels whick will imo make or break it.

 

[Coatigan]

Does anyone remember seeing a interesting fact about FFP and what can be considered for inclusion. I seem to remember that anything like hotels or shopping malls or concert venues had to be within a certain proximity to the stadium or actually attached?

Can't find it now. Could be the meds!

Their development and build costs are definitely excluded. I think their income from how I understand it can be included, if part of the stadium. I think the hotel and office will income will count, but the arena won't.

 

[Penders1957]

While this is a joke that keeps giving and has always made me chuckle,

I think it is safe to say from what we can now see on site sp far, that it won't actually end up looking like that.

Pending the horizontal panels whick will imo make or break it.

Do you think the horizontal panel design/ colour is yet to be agreed ? Seems very strange none have been fitted as yet ?

 

[Asa's left peg]

Their development and build costs are definitely excluded. I think their income from how I understand it can be included, if part of the stadium. I think the hotel and office will income will count, but the arena won't.

Yes, that's how I remember it. There are obvious advantages to connecting them but it may have been necessary.

 

[Gordyola]

Question re the cable net.

Once north stand is complete the cable net will only be required for Colin Bell and East Stand roofs.

There are four anchor points above each spiral on both sides of the ground.

Therefore, could you not tie a new cable from each of those four anchor points on the east side to hold up the roof?

Then do the same with the four anchor points on the Colin Bell side.

Essentially it works the same way as the two big anchor points currently being constructed to hold up the new north stand roof.

Each stand roof would then be held up by its own cables. Meaning you could do away with the cable net and it would also allow for easier expansion of East or Colin Bell if/when that ever is needed.
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The cable net roof system is a light weight structure hence the roof beams are much smaller in section to those in the new roofs. Removing the cable net would mean the roof beams would have to be substantially reinforced. The also the anchor points of the new beams, both N & S stands) are supported by a lot of steel work, effectively cantilever, the cable net beams are not. Not saying its impossible but, as they are totally different designs its unlikely to be able to do as you suggest, after all why didn't they just do that in the first place?

 

[Irlamblue]

It looks like a hospital. Very brutalist.

I like the Barbican

 

[Gordyola]

Their development and build costs are definitely excluded. I think their income from how I understand it can be included, if part of the stadium. I think the hotel and office will income will count, but the arena won't.

The arena is CFG not City so won't count in City's accounts