North Stand Construction Discussion

Am going into town this afternoon on the train, hoping to see some long range views of the ground at Ashburys and approach into Piccadilly - should definitely see if there's any more than just the one long beam up there
 
There will be another delay in construction when Richard Masters jumps from the top of the scaffolding (diving) boards.
 
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cpoverview said:
Todays look, not much change , the cap has been in the air again but didnt go far

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The way they lifted it, watched it sway, pulled it back and forth etc and watched it stay relatively still, suggests they are just testing how it handles and how much its momentum can be controlled.

Purely going off that, really, there could be a number of things going on all in.
 
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Gray said:
Got pulleys on one side to be able to tilt it.

Just checked and they had them yesterday as well.

Don’t know what they were doing today though.
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I assume the 16 or so cardboard boxes on the hotel eastern roof contain air conditioning kit ??
 
Penders1957 said:
I assume the 16 or so cardboard boxes on the hotel eastern roof contain air conditioning kit ??
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I think they are heat pumps (air source). Right size and shape.

There have been no ducts taken through the roof (SVPs aside), so I would doubt they are for the ventilation. Which now has the vents through the facade and those perforated panels we mentioned before, presumably for individual AC units within each room, which is common.
 
Coatigan said:
I think they are heat pumps (air source). Right size and shape.

There have been no ducts taken through the roof (SVPs aside), so I would doubt they are for the ventilation. Which now has the vents through the facade and those perforated panels we mentioned before, presumably for individual AC units within each room, which is common.
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Confused ! , you say there are only SVPs through the roof so how do heat source pumps distribute warm air through the building ? In many years staying in various brands of hotels across the country, I can honestly say that I’ve never encountered an “in room”A/c unit
 
Penders1957 said:
Confused ! , you say there are only SVPs through the roof so how do heat source pumps distribute warm air through the building ? In many years staying in various brands of hotels across the country, I can honestly say that I’ve never encountered an “in room”A/c unit
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They don't distribute air. They collect heat from air, and convert the heat to electricity. So it would just be cables then, going through the roof. Effectively the renewables (along with PV) as the main energy source, not for actual air handling.

In room ACs are far more common than centralised, in hotels. Most brands' preference. They are usually adjacent to or above or both, the in-room toilet where the ceilings are naturally lower. They can be vented out directly through the facade, or into a stack shared usually between two rooms. The vent shafts might go through the building, but the AC units themselves are most often in the room itself.

This one has not had any vents pop up through the roof, as far as I have seen. But it does have them through the facade.
 
Penders1957 said:
Confused ! , you say there are only SVPs through the roof so how do heat source pumps distribute warm air through the building ? In many years staying in various brands of hotels across the country, I can honestly say that I’ve never encountered an “in room”A/c unit
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You will have, I would be surprised if you didn't. Surely you have adjusted temperature or switched off the AC, even to avoid the sound, etc?

Edit, here is a Radisson Blu room, off TripAdvisor.

The grill you see in the step in ceiling height, the AC unit is behind it. The panel you see close to the door, is the access to service it. That way they can replace or repair each room individually so they dont have to shut/ write off a whole stack of rooms if the aircon breaks.

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Coatigan said:
You will have, I would be surprised if you didn't. Surely you have adjusted temperature or switched off the AC, even to avoid the sound, etc?

Edit, here is a Radisson Blu room, off TripAdvisor.

The grill you see in the step in ceiling height, the AC unit is behind it. The panel you see close to the door, is the access to service it. That way they can replace or repair each room individually so they dont have to shut/ write off a whole stack of rooms if the aircon breaks.

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Always assumed that was multi room ducted a/c not in room , obviously adjusted/ switched off but never realised it was in the ceiling void ! What about the heat pumps ??
 
Penders1957 said:
Always assumed that was multi room ducted a/c not in room , obviously adjusted/ switched off but never realised it was in the ceiling void ! What about the heat pumps ??
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They Can be ducted, with controls. But something of this scale, this many floors, this size of floorplate, it wouldn't be that efficient through the length of ducts that would be needed. Also means if the aircon unit breaks, instead of one room of angry customers that you can move, you end up with say 10 or more rooms to deal with, if served by one unit. Besides I've just looked at the floor plans and the risers between the rooms don't look big enough for vertical ducts, not for this many storeys.

Not sure I get your question on the heat pumps, but might be in my earlier post, of the two in succession.
 
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