North Stand expansion - seating, ticketing etc

Here is a better image:

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Yellow is current rail seating provision.

Orange is the minimum we'd like to see.

Purple is GA+
More rail seating would be nice but I don't see it as a massive problem. It's a step in the right diretion, particularly being at the back? How many members do 1894 have in the stadium at any one time? GA + I don't think matters massively.

1894 are the only atompshere group the club has and if they don't take this opportunity to lead and influence this move they are fucking idiots.
 
They consulated the fans first and the approach they've taken is based on their input. City said if there's demand for rail seating in the future then they'll expand it. Sounds like a pragmatic approach to me and some people will moan at anything.
I was privy to numerous surveys and the number of fans who showed an interest in rail seating in the North Stand was huge. They fell short of surveying all seasoncard holders (something we recommended they do), but the demand is undoubtedly there.

My point (which no one seems to be able to answer), is if this was an 'atmospheric North Stand', why not say they are going to put 6/7k rail seats in (to the orange line on the images above) and then, should the demand not be there, they reduce it slightly?

Because the club have displayed a tiny strip or rail-seating, they're going to struggle pursuading fans to go there en masse. The public update could have been far bolder and that would have made the job (improving the atmosphere by relocating singers into the back of NSL2) significantly easier.

I hate this common theme where fans say 'stop moaning'. It's not moaning. I'm passionate about this. I want it to work. These are my views on a forum dedicated to this particular topic. We're allowed to share views and describe what we would like to see.
 
They consulated the fans first and the approach they've taken is based on their input. City said if there's demand for rail seating in the future then they'll expand it. Sounds like a pragmatic approach to me and some people will moan at anything.
When did they consult the fans? The club have never been in touch with me about it
 
More rail seating would be nice but I don't see it as a massive problem. It's a step in the right diretion, particularly being at the back? How many members do 1894 have in the stadium at any one time? GA + I don't think matters massively.

1894 are the only atompshere group the club has and if they don't take this opportunity to lead and influence this move they are fucking idiots.
That's a terrible take Dave. To call 1894 idiots for not blindly walking into something is poor.

We absolutely need to know pricing. We need to know how many SCs there will be. We need commitments on the number of rail seats and when they'll go in (saying 3k and maybe more if we feel like it isn't a commitment).

The onus is on City to facilitate an atmospheric North Stand (if they want one). Not on a group of fans who volunteer their free time (and have had tons of recommendations on how to make this a truly special stand ignored).
 
When did they consult the fans? The club have never been in touch with me about it

There hasn’t been any wider consultation with the fan base.

The discussions and the decisions have been with the fan reps, binded by the NDA’s.

Bar the limited press release from the club recently, which contained some minimal new and updated information, the wider fan base doesn’t know what else the club have decided.
 
GA+ should be at back of ESL1 with lounge access leaving more of ESL2 to lower price singers.

Is that possible ??
I'm sure it is but the club seem fixated in wanting to have a GA+ section in the new stand, and located front and centre of that stand. It's been suggested to them that GA+ could be moved elsewhere but it looks like they're not budging.
 
GA+ should be at back of ESL1 with lounge access leaving more of ESL2 to lower price singers.

Is that possible ??
Anything is possible!

Some of the ideas we gave City:

1. Move GA+ seats to either ESL2/CBL2.
2. Move GA+ seats to the corners so they aren't central.
3. Don't bunch GA+ seats together (instead have them mixed in between 'regular' fans so we avoid big blocks of empties.

For reference this is what we're trying to avoid (see lack of participation in displays and empty seats in similar section of SSL2):


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