North Stand expansion - seating, ticketing etc

blueparrot said:
Which is exactly why 1894 need to engage and be involve with the club discussing those 3000 standing/ singing seats.
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Blueparrot.

Forget about 1894.

The club don't need 1894 to create and organise a dedicated singing section within and as part of the 3000 safe standing seats in NSL2.

All the club has to do is to set 1 block aside, say 500 seats, make that block a dedicated singing section, and ask fans via the clubs OS, on social media, via emails, etc if fans would like to move into that dedicated singing block, and to apply to move into that dedicated singing block. If the interest and up take is there, and the block sells out, another block can be opened for more singers.

1894 don't have to get involved in that process. The club can manage it all.
 
PGTips said:
Excuse the rough arse photoshop work as just messing around on my lunch break. But imagine if they filled in level 0 and gave us this...
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We need that single tier family stand ;)

I’ve often thought about them doing this tbf. They’d have to do the corners as well to avoid sight line issues. Just don’t think they’d do it though because ultimately it might look good but it wouldn’t really add much to capacity so the club would have no financial incentive to do it.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
I assume that they are? This is what they’ve always needed. They should be allocated an area at the back and middle.
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Apparently they were offered an opportunity to be the 'anchor tenant' quite early on in the process, and they refused. I could be mistaken on this but so far nobody has said that I am.
 
.db. said:
The South Stand is too segregated into small chunks of tiers though.

SSL0 trapped between the away fans and the quietest stand in the stadium.
SSL1 has the same issue but also has a hospitality area there.
SSL2 is larger but still much smaller than NSL1 will be.

Just look at this, at every other team in Europe this would be a vocal stand:

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It’s going to have the new City Sqaure there, it’s at the end with the Met stop, it’s a giant tier, got a great deep sloping roof to aid the atmosphere, couldn’t be much better for being our first proper big vocal stand for over three decades.

I can’t believe we’re going to let this last ever opportunity we have to get a proper vocal stand at the Etihad slip through our fingers.

I think it’s now time to leave the South Stand behind. Those who still want the banter with the away fans, fair enough; but it’s time to move on from the small tiers and get into the fist big proper tier we’ve had since the old Kippax.
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DB is sport on @jrb, we need to get the 1894 to get involved with this, as we have all been led down a garden path about the North Stand. We promised a blue wall. The above picture is a pipe dream, as it will never happen, due to Club Wembley issues happening in the North Stand.

As DB has posted above, it's time for all the vocal fans to move to the North Stand. DB has nailed it and is so spot on.

The 1894 need to do what they did last season and start a boycott of games until they get a meeting with the chair, as the whole episode with the North Stand has been a farce.

Look at Everton, they're all over their social media about their new stadium, giving people updates on bars, etc, you would think that who behind our North Stand works for MI5, nothing at all and when they do post something, it annoys the fan base. By way well done to @ssskies and @cpoverview who have kept us up to date on what is happening with the Frankstein Stand

Martin was not happy last night; none of the so-called other city YouTube community spoke about it

 
jrb said:
Blueparrot.

Forget about 1894.

The club don't need 1894 to create and organise a dedicated singing section within and as part of the 3000 safe standing seats in NSL2.

All the club has to do is to set 1 block aside, say 500 seats, make that block a dedicated singing section, and ask fans via the clubs OS, on social media, via emails, etc if fans would like to move into that dedicated singing block, and to apply to move into that dedicated singing block. If the interest and up take is there, and the block sells out, another block can be opened for more singers.

1894 don't have to get involved in that process. The club can manage it all.
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I don't agree, but in the end that's down to those in 1894 it's their choice, but in my opinion they are missing a big opportunity.
 
HelloCity said:
The single tier means nothing though since it’s not being used in a singular capacity. It’s broken down into (multiple) sub tiers and the set up means it has no benefit atmosphere wise over if it had been another 3rd tier.

Tier 2
Sky Bar
Safe Standing
Standard seating
GA+ (Cross Bar)
Family Stand L2

Tier 1
GA+ (City Hall)
Family Stand L1
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You forgot the ambulant seating mate! ;)

And technically, the sky bar is its own thing outwith Tier 2. ;).

We also don't yet know the GA+ will be on tier 1. It is a decent assumption, not denying that, but not quite factual.

Even so though, is that not just a case of you having an issue with the demographics. Which is possibly representative of the fanbase, or society. Should we not have families, young people, ambulant people, standing people, seated people, people that pay more for a prime seat etc in a 12000 seat stand? Would we even have enough of that one type of fan (presumably ultras or singers) to fill it, assuming you could displace every other group across the rest of the stadium?

I don't necessarily disagree with your point about it ticking too many boxes or being too varied. Not sure how feasible a more 'atmosphere driven' mix is though, or even what that mix would look like.
 
HelloCity said:
There’s nothing to disagree with - It’s a factual statement. The full extended tier isn’t really being used in a way that has any additional benefit over a third tier.

The current planned set up of tier 2 means that for all intents and purposes, the expansion itself is operating as a 3rd tier.

Tier 2 would have the family stand in place, then a dividing line for GA+ seats, and then standard/safe standing seats.

That means there’s no real difference, apart from visually, then if they had built a third tier instead, kept the family stand as tier 2 and had tier 3 as standard and safe standing.
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Only based on a judgementntal take on the demographics of a fan base.

Where did the family stand in tier 2 come from, I missed that. There is no dividing line to GA+, that's just making things up.

People saying they want a blue wall but arent getting a blue wall, they are. If it is a stand filled with blues, and designed as one tier, it will be a blue wall.

Whether that blue wall is shit, or as active as dortmunds yellow wall or others, will depend on the fans and collective dynamics of 12000 people. Not on whether there is 648 padded seats or people with families there.
 
Jesus H Gabz said:
Honestly mate they’re a doddle to keep up with, just buy all the tickets & the following season you’ll be able to upgrade to a full one (facial recognition aside) check in on the flexi thread if you get one it’s a good source of info. If you’re on Twitter give fan support a nudge, it’s how I got sorted & a lad I give tickets to did the same & got one
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Thanks mate. I’ve messaged them on Twitter, waiting for their reply.
 
uwerosler28 said:
Well I am led to beleive the reason the ss is so quiet is due to acoustics and the singing fans being spread out, I beleive the ns solves both these problems?
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There are around 3,000 fans in the safe standing part of SS0 as it is from 111 to 119.

This is by far the most vocal part of the stadium, helped by being close to the pitch and the away fans. It is odd picked on SS as the quiet area, there are much quieter ones.

Having fans split over the new NS2 in the wings, or however they are configured they will still be spread out as 3,000 is a lot of seats, and there will be a lot of kids in the new stand also as announced yesterday.

Moving fans from SS0 to NS1 won't make them louder as the distance from the pitch also needs to be taken into account. If it was 50 x 60 front and centre of the NS1 it would be about as good as it gets but the rail seating is visible in the wings, so unless they do the whole stadium that won't happen. Putting a big block along the back gets some of them 80 metres from the pitch and they won't be heard.

It is difficult to understand why you believe the SS is the problem, but it sounds from your language it is you have witnessed yourself but inferred it. You won't get the 3,000 most vocal fans reallocating to one area as they have other priorities and areas they want to be.
 
BLUE PEANUT said:
Well, we've all been taken by surprise, but the details have been hiding in plain sight in the planning docs (even includes the name Cross Bar ffs!) I have drawn how City hall will be accessed from inside the stadium. It seems us plebs in level 0 will have to stick to the concourse.View attachment 173052
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Yes, but that is no change at all to what we know.

The Cross Bar (GA+) is exactly where it always was, and the new description matches that. So does the capacity.

The city hall is exactly where it was, however the noted capacity is a change to or within a bigger capacity of 1800. And then the suggestion of seats needing to change to accommodate it has naturally led people to assume it is for introducing a hospitality offering. Which may or may not be true, we can't yet know.
 
jrb said:
All the club have to do is to create a NSL2 Singing Section page on the OS, asking fans to forward their names and supporters numbers if they want to move to a dedicated new singing section/block on NSL2. The club will have the exact numbers and details of all the fans that want to relocate to a new signing section/block on NSL2. The club can then process that information and organise the season tickets and relocations for next season.
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Me and my mates and family moved to Block 115 SSL1 when the South Stand was expanded with the help of the 1894 group. I love it in there, the atmosphere is great. The chances of me moving again are slim.
 
BringBackSwales said:
Sorry to hear you will not be attending after this season Sheila. Me and my boys sit in the family stand and they know who you are due to me telling them about you and John Stones, and whenever John scores or even warms up the 3 of us shout towards the Colin Bell stand “that’s for you Eccles”. I get puzzled looks from those around us but tbf that’s a regular event. You will be hugely missed at the Etihad but hope you continue to post in here?

Edit - has anyone told John boy yet?
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Thank you @BringBackSwales you are very kind. I shall continue to post in here and annoy folk about John Boy and I will watch as many matches on TV as I can. Keep shouting for John Boy please. :-)

Come on City. MANCHESTER CITY THE BEST TEAM IN THE LAND AND ALL THE WORLD.





p.s. I will also keep annoying poor Mr @jimharri by typing random things like the above in Capitals....... poor man has so much to put up with from me. I ask him why he hasn't got JB in the MOTM when he doesn't even play and I type random things in Caps. I am his curse!!! :-)
 
What the North stand and consists of internally.

I'll start off. Feel free to add anything I have missed out.

1. A restaurant overlooking the 2nd tier and the pitch.
2. A floating 3rd tier below the restaurant.
3. The 2nd tier.
4. 3000 safe standing seats at the back and sides of the 2nd tier.
5. 5000 regular seats. Some padded?
6. Ambulant seats.
7. GA+ seats at the front of the tier. (I can't remember the amount as it has been changed)
8. City Hall.
9. City Hall enhance bar.
9. The Cross Bar.
10. Hotel balconies at the back of the 2nd tier.

Anything else?
 
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