Paylor_Shade_Of_Blue
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Not yet. Needs to prove his worth, and more importantly, his commitment first.
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Offer Elano a new contract? Yes or no?
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First couple of months,sound as. Which is more frustrating as we know what he can do,bad attitude i rek.
gazting said:kiam06 said:I am in two minds, I want to keep good players at the club so the answer would be yes but I also feel that I wouldn't be at all bothered if he went so I just do not know. He played really well for Brazil last night and his class is there for all to see, does he suit the pace of the Premiership? that is the big question for me.
i think he will be class in the premier league just needs more protection in midfield like carrick for ronaldo, alonso for gerrard all the quality creative players need a decent grafter, also dnt forget his first season at city he was imence
First couple of months,sound as. Which is more frustrating as we know what he can do,bad attitude i rek.
leighton
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At the moment NO he has to show he wants it. He has ended the season well but he has to be more consistant next season. 2 years left on contract too I cant see the club offering him a new deal just yet.
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Elano is such a temperamental player that you can understand City not wanting to talk themselves into giving him another (long) contract just yet ..... why is he even asking when he has two years left on his current one?
He's a bit like Anelka , always talking to outside parties and hoping he's heard , and his mate Robinhos the same ...... Elano was in and out of the side last season for a reason ....... as much as he put in some sterling late performances , he also put in a few totally insignificant ones which , early on , forced Hughes to question his committment and attitude to life here ...... he also didn't do that well during the latter half of Svens reign either .
And let's not forget that he hardly set the world alight during his first season at Shaktar too , until he finally found some form in his second season.
Elano needs to stay and put in a full seasons shift littered with consistent performances before he starts the demands , or contract talks ...... but i doubt whther we , or he , will get that far!l
Elano is such a temperamental player that you can understand City not wanting to talk themselves into giving him another (long) contract just yet ..... why is he even asking when he has two years left on his current one?
He's a bit like Anelka , always talking to outside parties and hoping he's heard , and his mate Robinhos the same ...... Elano was in and out of the side last season for a reason ....... as much as he put in some sterling late performances , he also put in a few totally insignificant ones which , early on , forced Hughes to question his committment and attitude to life here ...... he also didn't do that well during the latter half of Svens reign either .
And let's not forget that he hardly set the world alight during his first season at Shaktar too , until he finally found some form in his second season.
Elano needs to stay and put in a full seasons shift littered with consistent performances before he starts the demands , or contract talks ...... but i doubt whther we , or he , will get that far!l
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Technically, the new season doesn't start until August...so technically, and in reality, he still has two full seasons to run on his contract.
But this is all moot. He's an average player who's probably surplus to requirements at City and will move in the coming months...
moomba said:BillyShears said:moomba said:I'd be starting talks.
If you let someone go into the last year of the contract it's a sure sign you don't value them too much.
Eh? He's got two years left on his contract...
Yes, and if we don't offer him a contract this season he will be in the last year of his contract. Not that complicated really.
Technically, the new season doesn't start until August...so technically, and in reality, he still has two full seasons to run on his contract.
But this is all moot. He's an average player who's probably surplus to requirements at City and will move in the coming months...
Blueboylewis09
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No because he just wont be able to fit into the squad.
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Contracts don't tend to run from the start of season to start of season, he would be in the second last season now. And while we continue to take the "he's not a priority" approach, he will go into the last season of his contract. So I would start talks now, that would buy us some time to see how he starts next season for us.
It is all moot, it's fairly obvious that Hughes doesn't want him at the club, and in my opinion made his mind up about Elano before last season started. So I don't expect he will get offered a new contract, don't think Hughes will even go to the effort of starting talks.
So when he does leave, I only hope that we get a replacement capable of doing the things that Elano (at his best) can do. Another defensive midfielder that works hard and sucks Hughes dick at training might please the masses but we'll be the poorer for it.
BillyShears said:Technically, the new season doesn't start until August...so technically, and in reality, he still has two full seasons to run on his contract.
Contracts don't tend to run from the start of season to start of season, he would be in the second last season now. And while we continue to take the "he's not a priority" approach, he will go into the last season of his contract. So I would start talks now, that would buy us some time to see how he starts next season for us.
But this is all moot. He's an average player who's probably surplus to requirements at City and will move in the coming months...
It is all moot, it's fairly obvious that Hughes doesn't want him at the club, and in my opinion made his mind up about Elano before last season started. So I don't expect he will get offered a new contract, don't think Hughes will even go to the effort of starting talks.
So when he does leave, I only hope that we get a replacement capable of doing the things that Elano (at his best) can do. Another defensive midfielder that works hard and sucks Hughes dick at training might please the masses but we'll be the poorer for it.
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He might be an arrogant lazy tosser but he's still better than 70% of our current players, all depends who we sign this transfer window if we are only going to get a centre back and a couple of strikers then we need to keep him so we have some options in midfield.
He's class on his day and Id be sad to see him go but at the same time I think Les needs to stamp his authority and show he wont put up with this kind of shit from a player who only bothers playing 50% of the time he's on the pitch. Nothing wrong with being passionate and wanting to know if your a valued player, but if he'd put 100% effort in every game then his importance would never have been in question at the end of the day.
He's class on his day and Id be sad to see him go but at the same time I think Les needs to stamp his authority and show he wont put up with this kind of shit from a player who only bothers playing 50% of the time he's on the pitch. Nothing wrong with being passionate and wanting to know if your a valued player, but if he'd put 100% effort in every game then his importance would never have been in question at the end of the day.
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Firstly, Elano "at his best" we've probably seen in a 15 or so games over two seasons. Reason enough to fuck him off for being inconsistent.
The bit in bold. A bit sad really Moomba. Running low on blood sugar, or arguments this afternoon?
moomba said:So when he does leave, I only hope that we get a replacement capable of doing the things that Elano (at his best) can do. Another defensive midfielder that works hard and sucks Hughes dick at training might please the masses but we'll be the poorer for it.
Firstly, Elano "at his best" we've probably seen in a 15 or so games over two seasons. Reason enough to fuck him off for being inconsistent.
The bit in bold. A bit sad really Moomba. Running low on blood sugar, or arguments this afternoon?
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Theres not too many in our squad that have performed consistently well over the past few years. People seem to focus on some more than others though. I will say that it's very hard to perform consistently well when you're not given a consistent run in the side. Elano got that late in the season, it coincided with our best results of the season and he was our player of the month just a few weeks ago.
Take it as you like, it's a concern that I have about Hughes transfer policy that he'd rather "good solid citizens" than exceptional talents. AS much as I like having De Jong, Kompany, and Barry in the squad I think we can't afford not to have those players that offer something different, but that don't fall in Hughes comfort zone.
As for wanting to start arguments, pmsl for the second time in a few minutes. Time for you to stalk the ITK's again maybe.
BillyShears said:Firstly, Elano "at his best" we've probably seen in a 15 or so games over two seasons. Reason enough to fuck him off for being inconsistent.
Theres not too many in our squad that have performed consistently well over the past few years. People seem to focus on some more than others though. I will say that it's very hard to perform consistently well when you're not given a consistent run in the side. Elano got that late in the season, it coincided with our best results of the season and he was our player of the month just a few weeks ago.
The bit in bold. A bit sad really Moomba. Running low on blood sugar, or arguments this afternoon?
Take it as you like, it's a concern that I have about Hughes transfer policy that he'd rather "good solid citizens" than exceptional talents. AS much as I like having De Jong, Kompany, and Barry in the squad I think we can't afford not to have those players that offer something different, but that don't fall in Hughes comfort zone.
As for wanting to start arguments, pmsl for the second time in a few minutes. Time for you to stalk the ITK's again maybe.
TFC
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I think we need to wake up to the fact that he will be playing for someone else next season. He wont command a regular spot in the 11, and he wont be happy with that.
So no to the new contract, I wish him well wherever he ends up.
So no to the new contract, I wish him well wherever he ends up.
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Ah, but Stevie Ireland did. He was our player of the season, and he was the one keeping Elano on the bench. After all, he was the one playing in Elano's favoured position...
Why don't we wait until the end of this transfer window, and then discuss whether we have enough "flair" players in the team.
It does make me warm and fuzzy inside to know that I have made you laugh twice today. I wish I could say the same for your posts, but alas, no. They are as dull, dry, and myopic as ever...but please carry on.
moomba said:Theres not too many in our squad that have performed consistently well over the past few years. People seem to focus on some more than others though. I will say that it's very hard to perform consistently well when you're not given a consistent run in the side. Elano got that late in the season, it coincided with our best results of the season and he was our player of the month just a few weeks ago.
Ah, but Stevie Ireland did. He was our player of the season, and he was the one keeping Elano on the bench. After all, he was the one playing in Elano's favoured position...
Take it as you like, it's a concern that I have about Hughes transfer policy that he'd rather "good solid citizens" than exceptional talents. AS much as I like having De Jong, Kompany, and Barry in the squad I think we can't afford not to have those players that offer something different, but that don't fall in Hughes comfort zone.
Why don't we wait until the end of this transfer window, and then discuss whether we have enough "flair" players in the team.
As for wanting to start arguments, pmsl for the second time in a few minutes. Time for you to stalk the ITK's again maybe.
It does make me warm and fuzzy inside to know that I have made you laugh twice today. I wish I could say the same for your posts, but alas, no. They are as dull, dry, and myopic as ever...but please carry on.
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For me it is 100% yes. Even with guys like Robinho and Ireland in the side, we are so much better when Elano is happy and on form. He is by far our best passer and most creative player, everything we do going forward runs through him, or starts with him. He is our best at set-pieces. For me when he is on his day he is our most influential player. He cannot be consistent when he is in and out of the side. It's all very well slagging players off for voicing their disappointment at not playing, but in Elano's defence, Hughes has given absolutely no credit to him at any stage this season, given no apparent appraisal of his worth to the squad, so no wonder the two clash! I'd say it's more likely that Elano will be sold, but IMO that would be a big mistake. People on here saying he is at best, a decent squad player and is not good enough for where we want to go, I would question their knowledge of what consitutes a top quality footballer.
Get him tied down on a longer term contract if that makes him happy, then spell out what is expected from him during that time. How hard can that be?
Get him tied down on a longer term contract if that makes him happy, then spell out what is expected from him during that time. How hard can that be?
kp789
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if hes got 2 years left no wait a year or sogazting said:bout 2 years i think he just wants a pay rise cus he is on 30-000 a week which is alot anywaymasterwig said:How long is left on his current contract?
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yes, but not an improvment on his current, just an extension
simon23
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absolutely yes to offering him a new contract.......
we are trying to build a quality squad....he is a quality player......if we progress as hoped this year, the following season will see us playing a lot of games (europa league and prem fixtures plus cup fixtures)........we need players of elano's calibre so we can at times give players like ireland, swp a rest.....even ireland had the odd bad game this season so to be able to put a player of elano's quality into his place when he needs a rest/isnt performing etc etc is a must.........
it was said in mid season (by MH himself) that after the origional outburst by elano at the start of the season that they had come to an understanding and that elano realised that it was now a squad game and not just a starting 11.
These most recent comments by elano are completely undestandable....he states that he is more than happy to stay but he wants the club to demonstrate that he is still part of their plans......to me there is absolutely nothign wrong with this.
(we also have to take these commetns with a huge pinch of salt....mis translations/mis qoutes etc etc by the media are particularly common and it wouldnt be a suprise now that if the media were putting a slight twist on his comments again to casue problems)
we are trying to build a quality squad....he is a quality player......if we progress as hoped this year, the following season will see us playing a lot of games (europa league and prem fixtures plus cup fixtures)........we need players of elano's calibre so we can at times give players like ireland, swp a rest.....even ireland had the odd bad game this season so to be able to put a player of elano's quality into his place when he needs a rest/isnt performing etc etc is a must.........
it was said in mid season (by MH himself) that after the origional outburst by elano at the start of the season that they had come to an understanding and that elano realised that it was now a squad game and not just a starting 11.
These most recent comments by elano are completely undestandable....he states that he is more than happy to stay but he wants the club to demonstrate that he is still part of their plans......to me there is absolutely nothign wrong with this.
(we also have to take these commetns with a huge pinch of salt....mis translations/mis qoutes etc etc by the media are particularly common and it wouldnt be a suprise now that if the media were putting a slight twist on his comments again to casue problems)