[OFFICIAL] - Fernando has signed

Comparing with say Garcia shows the difference is ever so slight but important

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<a class="postlink" href="http://www.squawka.com/players/javi-garcia/stats#performance-score" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.squawka.com/players/javi-gar ... ance-score</a>#manchester-city-(current)#champions-league#5#season-2013/2014#81#all-matches#1-8#by-match

Pass Accuracy
89 Fern
86 Javu

Av distance in passing
19m Fern
15m Javi

Duels won
59% Fern
71% Javi

Chance created
12 in 6 Fern
0 in 4 Javi

Overall summary from the site is Garcia wins more 50/50s but plays a shorter ball. In the games they've analysed 1 of the 4 games he was voted worst in the XI.
Fernando creates a lot more. He passes over a greater distance. Although his ball winning was lower in the 6 matches, he was the top player in possesion in 3 matches and in 2 of the 6 statisically the top player(as oppose to MOTM).

The website is dangerous as stats don't tell you much, however I do like the "awards" but on the stats page. It basically tells you if your going to get a player that on his day can shine at the top level and also Fernandinho is good, he doesn't shine as much in the awards as Fernando. I think we have a goodun here...

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.squawka.com/players/fernandinho/stats#performance-score" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.squawka.com/players/fernandi ... ance-score</a>#manchester-city-(current)#champions-league#5#season-2013/2014#81#all-matches#1-8#by-match
 
Manchester1894 said:
Comparing with say Garcia shows the difference is ever so slight but important

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.squawka.com/players/fernando-reges/stats#squawka-awards" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.squawka.com/players/fernando ... wka-awards</a>#fc-porto#champions-league#5#season-2013/2014#81#all-matches#1-6#

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.squawka.com/players/javi-garcia/stats#performance-score" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.squawka.com/players/javi-gar ... ance-score</a>#manchester-city-(current)#champions-league#5#season-2013/2014#81#all-matches#1-8#by-match

Pass Accuracy
89 Fern
86 Javu

Av distance in passing
19m Fern
15m Javi

Duels won
59% Fern
71% Javi

Chance created
12 in 6 Fern
0 in 4 Javi

Overall summary from the site is Garcia wins more 50/50s but plays a shorter ball. In the games they've analysed 1 of the 4 games he was voted worst in the XI.
Fernando creates a lot more. He passes over a greater distance. Although his ball winning was lower in the 6 matches, he was the top player in possesion in 3 matches and in 2 of the 6 statisically the top player(as oppose to MOTM).

The website is dangerous as stats don't tell you much, however I do like the "awards" but on the stats page. It basically tells you if your going to get a player that on his day can shine at the top level and also Fernandinho is good, he doesn't shine as much in the awards as Fernando. I think we have a goodun here...

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.squawka.com/players/fernandinho/stats#performance-score" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.squawka.com/players/fernandi ... ance-score</a>#manchester-city-(current)#champions-league#5#season-2013/2014#81#all-matches#1-8#by-match

From his preseason performance (and it is early days, mind) his short passing was fairly good, if not spectacular, but his long passing was a bit off (quite a few cross pitch passes were well behind the intended target or went out for a throw). This could just be rust but it was similar to what I saw of him at Porto.

Keep in mind he is going to be playing on a drastic curve coming from one of three (maybe two, depending on your perspective) dominant teams in a relatively less rigourous league to one of five or six teams that have to battle it out in one of the most physically demanding and skilled leagues in the world. That said, he will be surrounded by some of the best talent in the world at every position which means he will no longer have to be one of the few pillars holding up the temple—that could allow him to take his game to the next level.

I suppose I am just always cautiously optimistic and or a Daniel Downer, as my American nephew would say.
 
SebastianBlue said:
Manchester1894 said:
Comparing with say Garcia shows the difference is ever so slight but important

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.squawka.com/players/fernando-reges/stats#squawka-awards" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.squawka.com/players/fernando ... wka-awards</a>#fc-porto#champions-league#5#season-2013/2014#81#all-matches#1-6#

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.squawka.com/players/javi-garcia/stats#performance-score" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.squawka.com/players/javi-gar ... ance-score</a>#manchester-city-(current)#champions-league#5#season-2013/2014#81#all-matches#1-8#by-match

Pass Accuracy
89 Fern
86 Javu

Av distance in passing
19m Fern
15m Javi

Duels won
59% Fern
71% Javi

Chance created
12 in 6 Fern
0 in 4 Javi

Overall summary from the site is Garcia wins more 50/50s but plays a shorter ball. In the games they've analysed 1 of the 4 games he was voted worst in the XI.
Fernando creates a lot more. He passes over a greater distance. Although his ball winning was lower in the 6 matches, he was the top player in possesion in 3 matches and in 2 of the 6 statisically the top player(as oppose to MOTM).

The website is dangerous as stats don't tell you much, however I do like the "awards" but on the stats page. It basically tells you if your going to get a player that on his day can shine at the top level and also Fernandinho is good, he doesn't shine as much in the awards as Fernando. I think we have a goodun here...

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.squawka.com/players/fernandinho/stats#performance-score" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.squawka.com/players/fernandi ... ance-score</a>#manchester-city-(current)#champions-league#5#season-2013/2014#81#all-matches#1-8#by-match

From his preseason performance (and it is early days, mind) his short passing was fairly good, if not spectacular, but his long passing was a bit off (quite a few cross pitch passes were well behind the intended target or went out for a throw). This could just be rust but it was similar to what I saw of him at Porto.

Keep in mind he is going to be playing on a drastic curve coming from one of three (maybe two, depending on your perspective) dominant teams in a relatively less rigourous league to one of five or six teams that have to battle it out in one of the most physically demanding and skilled leagues in the world. That said, he will be surrounded by some of the best talent in the world at every position which means he will no longer have to be one of the few pillars holding up the temple—that could allow him to take his game to the next level.

I suppose I am just always cautiously optimistic and or a Daniel Downer, as my American nephew would say.

I think you're right, he is still a bit raw and needs to develop that side of the game. I think his main role will be to intercept and provide more pace and dynamism in the middle. Fernandinho or Yaya can play the cross field passes and it isn't something he will be required to do day in and day out but it is something he can improve. I hope he is careful on those challenges he makes though, he dives in alot and though he wins the ball it doesn't always matter these days. I think his added pace in the middle will really help us in the big games - he will be given strict instruction on how to play and will do a better job than Garcia at covering ground.
 
I liked the fact he passed forward beyond the opposition midfield as opposed to square along the opposition midfield line. Works out to the wingers directly rather than via the full back. Should get us moving forward quickly. The stats above is similar to my first impressions, not as strong in the full on tackle but good with the ball.
 
Hart of the matter said:
I liked the fact he passed forward beyond the opposition midfield as opposed to square along the opposition midfield line. Works out to the wingers directly rather than via the full back. Should get us moving forward quickly. The stats above is similar to my first impressions, not as strong in the full on tackle but good with the ball.

Many of those passes, if longer than 10-15 yards, were poor, though. I am sure he will improve but he has a lot of work to do before he convinces me he could fill Fernandinho's boots in that box-to-box role.

supercity88 said:
SebastianBlue said:
Manchester1894 said:
Comparing with say Garcia shows the difference is ever so slight but important

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.squawka.com/players/fernando-reges/stats#squawka-awards" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.squawka.com/players/fernando ... wka-awards</a>#fc-porto#champions-league#5#season-2013/2014#81#all-matches#1-6#

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.squawka.com/players/javi-garcia/stats#performance-score" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.squawka.com/players/javi-gar ... ance-score</a>#manchester-city-(current)#champions-league#5#season-2013/2014#81#all-matches#1-8#by-match

Pass Accuracy
89 Fern
86 Javu

Av distance in passing
19m Fern
15m Javi

Duels won
59% Fern
71% Javi

Chance created
12 in 6 Fern
0 in 4 Javi

Overall summary from the site is Garcia wins more 50/50s but plays a shorter ball. In the games they've analysed 1 of the 4 games he was voted worst in the XI.
Fernando creates a lot more. He passes over a greater distance. Although his ball winning was lower in the 6 matches, he was the top player in possesion in 3 matches and in 2 of the 6 statisically the top player(as oppose to MOTM).

The website is dangerous as stats don't tell you much, however I do like the "awards" but on the stats page. It basically tells you if your going to get a player that on his day can shine at the top level and also Fernandinho is good, he doesn't shine as much in the awards as Fernando. I think we have a goodun here...

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.squawka.com/players/fernandinho/stats#performance-score" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.squawka.com/players/fernandi ... ance-score</a>#manchester-city-(current)#champions-league#5#season-2013/2014#81#all-matches#1-8#by-match

From his preseason performance (and it is early days, mind) his short passing was fairly good, if not spectacular, but his long passing was a bit off (quite a few cross pitch passes were well behind the intended target or went out for a throw). This could just be rust but it was similar to what I saw of him at Porto.

Keep in mind he is going to be playing on a drastic curve coming from one of three (maybe two, depending on your perspective) dominant teams in a relatively less rigourous league to one of five or six teams that have to battle it out in one of the most physically demanding and skilled leagues in the world. That said, he will be surrounded by some of the best talent in the world at every position which means he will no longer have to be one of the few pillars holding up the temple—that could allow him to take his game to the next level.

I suppose I am just always cautiously optimistic and or a Daniel Downer, as my American nephew would say.

I think you're right, he is still a bit raw and needs to develop that side of the game. I think his main role will be to intercept and provide more pace and dynamism in the middle. Fernandinho or Yaya can play the cross field passes and it isn't something he will be required to do day in and day out but it is something he can improve. I hope he is careful on those challenges he makes though, he dives in alot and though he wins the ball it doesn't always matter these days. I think his added pace in the middle will really help us in the big games - he will be given strict instruction on how to play and will do a better job than Garcia at covering ground.

I concur. He'll no doubt be an integral part of our team this year but I think many have their "new signing so he is the best player in the world" specs on right now.
 
This signing has left me flabbergasted by the lack of plaudits and praise.

I nail my colours to the mast with this one, he will be our best signing by a mile. He is the complete package, had he gone to United, Liverpool or even Real he would dominate for them. He has gone under the radar and we have scooped an epic bargain.

--------------------------------------------Hart------------------------------------------------
Zabaleta-----------------Komapny-------Mangala------------------------Kolarov
-------------------------------------------Fernando-----------------------------------------
-------------------------------Yaya------------------Fernandinho------------------------
-------Nasri-----------------------------------------------------------------Silva-------------
-------------------------------------------Aguero----------------------------------------------


That formation and lineup is a true 4-3-3 and as powerful as any team in the world. We have a quality backline with pace, the high-line will be played and will be very similar to Peps Barca but we have more quality and pace.
The midfield allows Fernandinho to be his quality self as a box to box player the same as Yaya but he can play as a two man defensive midfield pairing akin to Mancini's inferior combo of Barry and De Jong. Fernandinho is more than a holding player, he is a beast going forward and a tidy passer, Fernando allows us to get that extra 10-20% out of him, if people thought Fernandinho was great last year then they are in for a big shock this season when he dominates
Our front three now have a tru luxury of just enjoying their roles now, knowing they have 8 players behind them to mop up, the interchanging positions and astute passing will be a joy to witness and I predict Aguero will shine above all forwards in the league this coming year, injuries aside.

Then you have the fact we have such a stellar bunch of options to replace our first team. Jovetic I expect big things from and I love him as a player, I worry for Nasri to be honest, I can see Jovetic taking his place as he can do Nasri's job but also score a heap of goals too.

Great season ahead, and it all stems from shrewd acquistions that allow us to be at our top level, Fernando is key to this. As is Mangala but Fernando made Porto look good, he is everywhere and he is as solid a player as the premier league as in his position. Easily better than Matic and yet he cost much less :)
 
BlueindianNewcity said:
How does he compare to someone like Matic ?

Both are similar players but Fernando is a better tackler and he is better on the ball. The attribute I like most about Fernando is the fact he looks up and moves the ball forward. He is happy to spray the ball 30-40 yards or he if he can he will bomb forward with the ball through the middle.

He is remarkably similar to Fernandinho to be honest. We basically have two players in the same mold.

We have a gem here guys, a proper De Beer.
 
NipHolmes said:
BlueindianNewcity said:
How does he compare to someone like Matic ?

Both are similar players but Fernando is a better tackler and he is better on the ball. The attribute I like most about Fernando is the fact he looks up and moves the ball forward. He is happy to spray the ball 30-40 yards or he if he can he will bomb forward with the ball through the middle.

He is remarkably similar to Fernandinho to be honest. We basically have two players in the same mold.

We have a gem here guys, a proper De Beer.

I am guessing your previous post and this response are based on his time at Porto, as he hasn't quite yet shown any of there attributes in preseason (though, I hope he does once our campaign gets under way). I didn't necessarily see much of his distribution prowess in the limited Porto matches I watched, either, but I probably just missed his best performances. Do you know of any good YouTube highlights videos that will reflect those attributes?
 

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