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[domalino]

No that is your claim. I am nkt claiming they adopted it and changed it. I am saying they used a symbol of a ship, with the widely held view it represented the canal that opened the same year. Just because a ship was used elsewhere, doesn't make it the same meaning.

Ships existed before they were used in that period that involved slavery. And long after. As all symbols, they can be used to symbolise a variety of things.

That is not gymnastics, that is just basic awareness.

They didn’t use a ship, they used the Manchester coat of arms.

If it was a random ship, you could definitely argue it’s got nothing to do with the Manchester coat of arms, but they literally copied the coat of arms exactly.

Obviously ships can mean lots of things, and they can represent lots of things, but a ship put on a crest in 1840 can’t represent a canal that wouldn’t be built for 50 years.

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Has the Red Rose been linked to the mass murder of the French yet?

 

[Inter Me Nan]

Read it have you?

Why any blue would give that City hating publication traffic is beyond me!

 

[mexico1970]

Why any blue would give that City hating publication traffic is beyond me!

 

[domalino]

Why any blue would give that City hating publication traffic is beyond me!

It does make it very difficult to have a conversation about the merits, or lack thereof, of an article when half the people arguing haven’t read it but are really angry about it.

 

[manclad]

I thought it was The Ramada Hotel?

I don't remember singing a song that Hitlers ball was in the Ramada hotel.
It some how just doesn't rhyme very well at all.

 

[El Gringo]

Just made an appointment with the local tattoo artist to cover over the ship with a bee.
I'll send Andy Burnham a picture of it

Made me chuckle that Screamer

 

[Inter Me Nan]

It does make it very difficult to have a conversation about the merits, or lack thereof, of an article when half the people arguing haven’t read it but are really angry about it.

That's fair enough mate can't argue that. Maybe if it wasn't a City hating rag more people would've read it myself included.

 

[manclad]

Every ship is evil mate, even pretend ones.

Does that also include the friendship ??

 

[mexico1970]

Does that also include the friendship ??

If that friendship has anything to do with Manchester or red faced people yes.

Friendship was banned decades ago when Andy Pandy got in the basket with Loopy Loo in watch with mother and Blue Peter presenters of the female kind were getting knocked up by rogues and scoundrels.