Our Club is changing

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

As LoveCity said, there's still a very Mancunian feel about the club and when we do finally lose that feel, then it's time to fuck off.

It pains me to say it but I'd rather watch it in the pub than watch it surrounded by a bunch of pricks who don't belong at a football match...kind of like some of the freaks that turn up to the swamp every week.

I remember going to Maine Road as a kid and being surrounded by working class people with a real passion for the club and that's what we want, proper supporters filling the ground every week instead of dicks who choose City as a lifestyle choice.

It's just not a 'City thing' to have a ground full of tourists with cameras and people just there for the day out with no passion whatsoever for MCFC.

I await the 'the more the merrier', 'embrace it' and 'we need them to move forward' bullshit cliches but I stand by my opinion on this and always will.

City, City ra ra ra.

LIAM LIAM LIAM..........Not like you to be negative hey...Pass your comments onto the Sheikh one of our most recent fans....if that is your attitude then I am afraid you need to not go to city anymore because whether you like it or not,we are gonna be global and that is the "Vision"..One question.....Is my mum a glory hunter?

 

[Berkovic_blue]

not got any problem with chinese family being here, just the fact that they only support us when were winning I think it's false and frankly sad. Id hate to end up like chelsea or the rags , they used to have class support at home, but now its mainly just prawn eating, photo taking glory hunters who at the first sign of bad form, are no where to be seen :)

How do you know how long they've been going?

I can remember seeing a few Chinese people in the crowd at Maine Rd on more than one occassion. One of the things I like about City is the diverse mix of supporters you often see. Anyone who wants to buy a ticket should be welcome imo

 

[Blue Streak]

How do you think Khaldoon and Mansour would feel about this with our global vision?

As Uber blue said I think we need to keep our identity and not forget the bad times but you have to move forward with the times and a chinese families money is just as good as an Englishmans money

not got any problem with chinese family being here, just the fact that they only support us when were winning I think it's false and frankly sad. Id hate to end up like chelsea or the rags , they used to have class support at home, but now its mainly just prawn eating, photo taking glory hunters who at the first sign of bad form, are no where to be seen :)

How do you know how long they've been going?

I can remember seeing a few Chinese people in the crowd at Maine Rd on more than one occassion. One of the things I like about City is the diverse mix of supporters you often see. Anyone who wants to buy a ticket should be welcome imo[/quote]




I'm going to play devils advocate here and will upset a few with what I'm going to say but I'm saying it anyway. I work on Trafford Park and live in Whalley Range and have done the journey many, many times when the Rags are at home. As I finish in the evening if they are playing there are plenty of Rags knocking about. Now I know they draw plenty of support from other areas of the country but believe me there is still a hugely Mancunian influence in their match going fanbase as I hear the accent's when travelling home. I've no reason whatsoever? to believe City would also lose this as our profile get's bigger either.

 

[Bill]

I don't want them.

Give me 40,000 real fans and 8,000 empty seats any day.

Hate glory hunters, always have at United and not gonna change now we're getting some.

we have no choice, not only can we not stop them we don't want to.thanks to platini we need every penny coming through our tills. if anyone thought by signing players like silva, aguero and tevez we would remain under the radar then they are deluded.
the more we win the more glory hunters we'll attract, don't forget too that the far east market is as of yet mainly untapped by us, its full of rags.well in that region there will be "floaters" just wanting find an identity, to find a rival to their brother/sister/uncle etc that follow the scum.
that's where we come in, they don't have the banter we have with families split in their allegiance, well they will want some of that to make games interesting, to chat and argue, for phone ins and the like.

we'd better get used to it.

saving grace is our stadium, we have a set 40k proper blues who have been here through all the shit, there simply isn't room for the plastics that curse the rags, plastics that sit silently at the swamp just daydreaming about whether the 10pm back to euston will leave on time.

when we extend the stadium we will lose some of our identity but for that we again platini as we have no choice other than to sell our soul, albeit a very small part of it.

dont know about anyone else but i dont give a fuck who comes through the door as long as i'm there and stick around a bit longer to see us dominate europe and beyond.

 

[Mike D]

i've seen an increasing number of spanish fans in and around the ground.

there was some right dodgy looking **** sat below me looked like a gypsy. oh wait that was you ;) fucking gloryseeker lol

Once they get the ruling on Dale Farm they'll be plenty more gypsies when they move on the waste land next to Etihiad.

At least they could give us some pre match entertainment

 

[MadchesterCity]

All these negative comments about Chinese and asians!

I am British but of Chinese parentage. Sadly, I get the feeling that there are a quite a section of Man.City fans who would be annoyed by my very presence in the Etihad.

I am not a City fan. However I started attending football matches, as a general supporter of football, as long ago as 1964 (I am a pensioner now), and have done so ever since, although not so frequently in recent years, for non-football reasons. I remember clearly seeing the great City team of Summerbee, Bell etc.playing - Neil Young scored a great goal at WBA, IIRC - and I was very pleased that that team won the championship (then properly called the First Division) in 1968.

Surely there is nothing wrong, if there are spare seats, for some who are not fans of either team, but merely sympathisers, of even general supporters of football, to attend matches? Or should all spectators have to be hate-filled fanatics supporting either team?

I am not accusing Man.City fans in particular of what I see as a rather nasty sort of hidden racist xenophobia, as sadly I find these disparaging comments about Chinese and asians on football forums associated with other clubs as well.

To those who have posted these negative comments on Chinese etc. in these forums, I would just like to say that while you may not like the look of us, we do have to share this world together, and it might be just that little bit more pleasant if we sometimes tried a bit better to deal with our prejuduces - even if those prejudices might sometimes be justified.

excellent post, but what upsets people is when people don't celebrate when we score, there was a chap at the Chelsea away game season before last that had managed to get a ticket in the away end but never celebrated as we slipped in the 4th.

I can see why this upsets people

 

[Silva Service]

How can City be both an exclusively working class Mancunian enclave and the richest club in the world?

The Sheik has turned our world upside down and all our dreams into reality. For those who want to turn the clock back to the good old days - go and watch QPR.

Would you rather be at Loftus Road watching Sweep and Joey or at the Etihad Stadium watching Aguero and Silva?

The decision is yours!

 

[Frank H]

All these negative comments about Chinese and asians!

I am British but of Chinese parentage. Sadly, I get the feeling that there are a quite a section of Man.City fans who would be annoyed by my very presence in the Etihad.

I am not a City fan. However I started attending football matches, as a general supporter of football, as long ago as 1964 (I am a pensioner now), and have done so ever since, although not so frequently in recent years, for non-football reasons. I remember clearly seeing the great City team of Summerbee, Bell etc.playing - Neil Young scored a great goal at WBA, IIRC - and I was very pleased that that team won the championship (then properly called the First Division) in 1968.

Surely there is nothing wrong, if there are spare seats, for some who are not fans of either team, but merely sympathisers, of even general supporters of football, to attend matches? Or should all spectators have to be hate-filled fanatics supporting either team?

I am not accusing Man.City fans in particular of what I see as a rather nasty sort of hidden racist xenophobia, as sadly I find these disparaging comments about Chinese and asians on football forums associated with other clubs as well.

To those who have posted these negative comments on Chinese etc. in these forums, I would just like to say that while you may not like the look of us, we do have to share this world together, and it might be just that little bit more pleasant if we sometimes tried a bit better to deal with our prejuduces - even if those prejudices might sometimes be justified.

excellent post, but what upsets people is when people don't celebrate when we score, there was a chap at the Chelsea away game season before last that had managed to get a ticket in the away end but never celebrated as we slipped in the 4th.

I can see why this upsets people

Is it only "Chinese" who don't celebrate when Man.City score? Do no "Chinese" ever celebrate when Man.City score?

There seems to be an assumption amongst some that the only genuine football fans are working class, and even that the only good ones are "white" working class. And that anyone else who takes any interest in any club must be a "glory hunter" - either a camcorder obsessed "Chinese", or a prawn-sandwich eating middle-class "prick".

I've admitted that I'm not a rabid Man.City fan, but I have long had a "soft spot" for Man.City. The reasons for that are the very opposite of "glory-hunting".

Apart from AFC Wimbledon, I haven't any reason for strong allegiance to any other club. However I have generally supported some teams for one or both of two reasons. I tend to support the "underdog", and I would rather support a team playing attractive skilful football, than one playing in a negative thuggish way.

The great Man.City team of the mid- and late-60s filled both conditions. They played attractive skilful football, and, compared to Man.U., Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs and Everton (a big club then) they were definitely "underdogs".

Of course, since the arrival of the Sheikhs, Man.City no longer have the mantle of underdogs - so there is no longer any reason for sympathy for them on that score. But in compensation, I can see being formed a team which will probably be one of the most skilful and attractive teams to ever grace the English leagues. It will be great if this team fulfils its potential, and if such players as Silva, Aguero etc. get the acclaim their skills deserve.

As for camcorders, unless someone, "Chinese" or not, is using one which blocks the views of others, what is the problem? I don't have a camcorder, nor even a camera - but if I, and many people who haven't been at a match want to see bits of it on Youtube etc., we can only do so if someone is recording it.

As I am grateful to so many people who have put up videos on the internet, I was considering getting a video camera so I could repay something of the debt I feel I owe them. However, comments on this thread have reminded me of the hidden hostility of some (many?) at the very sight of an "asian" or "Chinese" with a camera or camcorder, so I am not sure I could ever use one in public without feeling embarrassed.

Besides being castigated as gloryseekers the other term of virtual abuse that is handed out about Chinese or asian looking people is that they are "tourists". It seems that only white Britons should be permitted to be tourists - as so many are in other parts of the world.

I have lived in this country since 1948 - all but the first two years of my life. I have been attending football matches since 1964, although the expense now means I can't attend that frequently recently. I thank the number of City fans who have been posting expressing sympathy after my post in this thread. I am quite prepared to be assured that they represent a decent majority of the Man.City fans.

However, I am a little annoyed at the frequency with which the presence of "Chinese" people at football matches is criticised on various football forums - especially as I am sure that most of the people so posting have lived in this country for a much shorter time than I have - and I suspect that I actually know a great deal more about the history and culture of this country - and of its football teams - than most of them do.

 

[southern muppet]

I think this idea that there is massive city support overseas is not accurate in my experience. I recently came back from 2 months working in vietnam where the locals are all obsessive prem watchers, and did not see a single city shirt amongst a sea of rags, dippers, and cheslski shirts. I spoke to a large number of people in work and social situations and would always raise football as an icebreaker. Not a single city fan. Didn't even see any knockoff shirts in the markets.

Where i now live in south australia, everyone immediately assumes that as I am from mcr that I am a rag, and few have heard of city at all. Another recent experience was that I forgot my god daughters birthday last week and wanted to buy her a city shirt. I normally buy city gear on line but I ventured out into the main sports store in adelaide. Miles of the other top 4, but no city shirts. I visited 4 different shops and drew a blank at each.

We have a long way to go before we even make a dent on the potential overseas support. I think there is some increase in o/s support from the countries where we have signed players but I dont see much evidence of us being on the cusp of world domination

Agreed.

The rule of thumb is that whenever you're abroad and you speak to someone about football, they call United 'Manchester' 100 per cent of the time.

Who really cares? They call AC Milan 'Milan' and Inter are called Inter in the same way City are called City. Inter isn't exactly a shite or low profile club.

We can only grow, and are virtually assured of doing said growing. In that sense, we've got nothing to lose and everything to gain, with a sense of inevitability about gaining it.

 

[TheMoonIsRising]

fucking hate glory hunters but what can you do ?