Our current Uefa coeficient ranking

Manchester33 said:
Firstly, I don't understand why us English people are so pessimistic, we shouldn't be looking over our shoulder, we should be looking ahead to a vulnerable German league that looks set to fall from grace, now that Pep is leaving, Dortmund aren't the force they were a few years ago and the better players are moving abroad, I'm certain they'll begin to plummet. England has gone through it's low end of the cycle and seem to be heading back the right way. Italy on the other hand is similar to Germany, being dominated by Juve is terrible for them, it decreases the competition and encourages players to leave clubs like AC/Inter/Napoli/Roma/Fiorientina which in theory should make it harder for them in Europe. As England have shown, it's better to have 4 good teams then one great team in the competition. We won't lose our 4th place to Italy, if anyone does I think it will be the Germans, but we're talking 5 years from now.

The issue we've had isn't in the Champions League. Our clubs do take the UCL seriously, we just haven't been good enough. The problem for me lies in the Europa League. This season West Ham and Southampton both qualified for the Europa league, neither made it to the group stage. Why? Because we have a snobby attitude towards the competition. West Ham seriously justified going out of that competition by saying that 'avoiding relegation was more important', well how stupid do they look now? Italian/Spanish/German sides all take it seriously (like they should do) and that's why their coefficients are similar/better than ours. There is no other explanation then that IMO. It's down to the FA to encourage our clubs to perform better in Europe, they need to swap Monday games to Fridays (like all other countries do), any team playing in Europe shouldn't be allowed to play on a Sunday leading up to the games or a Saturday after the games (like all other countries do), finally they should start the season 2 or 3 weeks earlier, they shouldn't necessarily have a winter break (because football fans in Britain wouldn't accept that), but by starting the season a few weeks earlier they can have 2 or 3 'free' weekends towards the business end of the season when clubs like ourselves and Liverpool have games adding up thick and fast.

Common sense will help us catch Spain.
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All sensible stuff but the other reason the clubs don't take the europa league seriously imo is because the fans don't.

Clubs like Liverpool are desperate to be seen as 'important' so their fans may take more of an interest but most just see it as another expense which only becomes interesting in the later rounds. Even Liverpool's participation was half arsed until they drew the rags.

The problem with all european football is too many games with not enough on them imo.
 
Neville Kneville said:
All sensible stuff but the other reason the clubs don't take the europa league seriously imo is because the fans don't.

Clubs like Liverpool are desperate to be seen as 'important' so their fans may take more of an interest but most just see it as another expense which only becomes interesting in the later rounds. Even Liverpool's participation was half arsed until they drew the rags.

The problem with all european football is too many games with not enough on them imo.
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Exactly you hit the nail right on the head. In the EL nobody gives a shit until the business end. Many games in the group stage are like friendlies. The CL has a bit more spice before Christmas but is fairly predictable as the usual suspects always seem to qualify.
 
Just wanted to glance at the coefficient table seeing as there were some 'interesting' results this week. It was normally updated on the Friday morning following the midweek fixtures. Nothing at the moment. Perhaps Gill can't bring himself to press the 'send' button. Conspiracy?
 
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