Our PR department and the media

[nmc]

Hands up anybody that thinks the Twatini affair just happened, just think how he ruled the roost to suit himself and his cronies. Then think about FFP and how he abused us, then without a murmur he is gone, and just for a moment think that OUR club might just have had something to do with it.

Let's hope David Gill meets with a similar fate! Here's hoping.

 

[bluesoup]

Your post history suggests you are close to VK and are extremely supportive of her.

Wouldn't it be ironic if the PR team were all over this thread to defend their inflated salaries and their approach ;)

Basically... the approach is not working, the strategy is flawed, the tactics need to be change, the people involved need to be changed. Relationships with the press need to improve and I don't mean give them a plusher welcome, heated seat, a hot meal and a brew!

So to say... we have accepted the narrative is naivety at best.

If we have adopted a toothless stance of a phone call, letter or email to say; we don't approve an article in the press, this is somewhat comical. Bet the press pack think this is rather cute / funny and then swap funny tales of VK and her phone calls telling them what a naughty boy they've been.

 

[Eccles Blue]

As my grandmother used to say: Walk a mile in my shoes..................... I am bemused as to how our PR department works but I guess they would be bemused if they tried to do my job, or if they were looking in from the outside.

This is not a defence or non-defence of the PR department, because I also get very frustrated with their antics but ..............what do I know.

 

[mayo31]

I was in Abu Dhabi the other year amongst the group who won the trip to watch the team v hamburg.

In a question and answer session I asked Tixxi why we don't fight back as at the time Jose was having a pop. Told him us in Manchester see it every day.

His response was simply we are better than that

 

[TCIB]

Some strange comments about VK.
Ask yourself a question, if your boss gives you 3 months off with pay as a thankyou for all your hard work in the past couple of years is that a sign they are planning on sacking you?
I will give you a clue, no they are not
City are very proactive when the press publish crap about the club, but as they are not seen to be banning reporters from the ground they are not doing a good job according to some.
There is a plan in places with regards to PR, and while you may not agree with that plan it is how things are and will continue to be for the foreseeable future.

If she has been given 3 months paid off, that to me gives equal credibility that they are just moving her out of the way whilst they look at their approach again. Nothing about that screams job security to me tbh. Not saying it is the case but has as much merit as your assertion tbf.

 

[quiet_riot]

Some strange comments about VK.
Ask yourself a question, if your boss gives you 3 months off with pay as a thankyou for all your hard work in the past couple of years is that a sign they are planning on sacking you?
I will give you a clue, no they are not
City are very proactive when the press publish crap about the club, but as they are not seen to be banning reporters from the ground they are not doing a good job according to some.
There is a plan in places with regards to PR, and while you may not agree with that plan it is how things are and will continue to be for the foreseeable future.

So erm, who does 'your' job whilst you're having 3 months off? The work doesn't just stop.

 

[bluwes]

Hands up anybody that thinks the Twatini affair just happened, just think how he ruled the roost to suit himself and his cronies. Then think about FFP and how he abused us, then without a murmur he is gone, and just for a moment think that OUR club might just have had something to do with it.

I said that from day One. You fu*k with the Sheikh and you don't have much of a future

 

[Phil1]

3 months off paid leave eh? Sounds like she's doing great!

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

I said that from day One. You fu*k with the Sheikh and you don't have much of a future

I'm more concerned with the history Gill and co. are creating every single day they're not dealt with. He's had long enough of a future to do a huge amount of damage and unless shit hits the fan very promptly and March, April and May turn into the 3 greatest months for us that football could ever see, then yet another season has gone by where we have castrated and the same cronies will be giggling in glee ready to do it all again next season.

What do they have to do to him for him to do, what you say he does, which he doesn't, or days like today, and pretty much every game for the past 4 months, doesn't happen.

 

[bluwes]

I'm more concerned with the history Gill and co. are creating every single day they're not dealt with. He's had long enough of a future to do a huge amount of damage and unless shit hits the fan very promptly and March, April and May turn into the 3 greatest months for us that football could ever see, then yet another season has gone by where we have castrated and the same cronies will be giggling in glee ready to do it all again next season.

What do they have to do to him for him to do, what you say he does, which he doesn't, or days like today, and pretty much every game for the past 4 months, doesn't happen.

Slowly slowly catchee monkey as the saying goes

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Slowly slowly catchee monkey as the saying goes

aint no monkey, it's a pile of stinking shit that erupts with a giant roar "I fucking stink"all the time.

We're getting further and further away from a position to resolve this. I mean you would have thought Leicester would be a catalyst, but nope, now the Rags are back doing worse than they ever did and it's just being let go, even when everyone is now publicly talking about it.

it's like football is competing with Trump, that it's somehow offended that it can be outdone by somebody for blatant bollocks and shite.

 

[Bluekiwi]

How about taking a leaf out of Trump's books and banning the media that we don't want anywhere near our ground/players/management.
Trump is a dickhead but at least he is stirring the media pot.

 

[Chrper]

People are free to form their own opinions, but please don't try and portray them as fact, as we all know that there are few facts in football but lots of opinions!!

Look at Arse, they have a split in the fans between the wenger to stay and wenger out brigade, and there are lots of articles saying its time to go/stay etc.

Which group do you think supports the clubs stance and lack of response to the media, my guess is the group who are seeing the most articles and TV interviews that support their own agenda.


There is a plan at City, you may not agree with the plan, so does that make the plan wrong? in your eyes you may think it does but in the clubs eyes it is their plan so its correct.

Who is right?

 

[Sunny Coast Blue]

Not the ones that lost the war.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Wouldn't it be ironic if the PR team were all over this thread to defend their inflated salaries and their approach ;)

Basically... the approach is not working, the strategy is flawed, the tactics need to be change, the people involved need to be changed. Relationships with the press need to improve and I don't mean give them a plusher welcome, heated seat, a hot meal and a brew!

So to say... we have accepted the narrative is naivety at best.

If we have adopted a toothless stance of a phone call, letter or email to say; we don't approve an article in the press, this is somewhat comical. Bet the press pack think this is rather cute / funny and then swap funny tales of VK and her phone calls telling them what a naughty boy they've been.

+1

Been saying this for years. We need a different approach.

 

[blueju]

+1

Been saying this for years. We need a different approach.

We basically just bend over and take it. How many more years can we take of the old Sky 4 mafia running the agenda, even when commentating on our games? In ten years time will it be Martial, Rashford, Lingard spouting the same shite, or will we have stood up to them by then?

 

[Chippy_boy]

What I find puzzling is that the rags have demonstrated for 30 years that taking a hard line with the media, DOES work.

And it went hand in hand with their success on the pitch imo.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

What I find puzzling is that the rags have demonstrated for 30 years that taking a hard line with the media, DOES work.

And it went hand in hand with their success on the pitch imo.

But for quite a number of those Sky owned a chunk of them, and were trying to buy the club - giving them the Sun and News of the World on a platter.
By the end of the 90s, they were the dominant team, and could bully the media as Ferguson wanted.
Then the internet and Far East became important, and prior exploitation led to the need for 'clicks' becoming a self-sustaining circle.

We've never had that clout.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

But for quite a number of those Sky owned a chunk of them, and were trying to buy the club - giving them the Sun and News of the World on a platter.
By the end of the 90s, they were the dominant team, and could bully the media as Ferguson wanted.
Then the internet and Far East became important, and prior exploitation led to the need for 'clicks' becoming a self-sustaining circle.

We've never had that clout.

Assuming that's the reason for their constantly positive representation - the point remains that our approach clearly isn't working and it's hard to imagine our treatment being much worse. Different approach needed.

 

[Chippy_boy]

But for quite a number of those Sky owned a chunk of them, and were trying to buy the club - giving them the Sun and News of the World on a platter.
By the end of the 90s, they were the dominant team, and could bully the media as Ferguson wanted.
Then the internet and Far East became important, and prior exploitation led to the need for 'clicks' becoming a self-sustaining circle.

We've never had that clout.

Doubtless what you say is true, and I would not advocate us simply "doing what the rags did", we have to cut our coat according to our cloth. But the cloth is not some 2nd rate club that can be kicked and spat at relentlessly without come back. When you look at the positive things happening at our club, with the best academy, the regeneration of the east of Manchester, the young talent we have coming through... then any *balanced* reporting would be full of positives. Not forgetting we're perhaps the most successful English club of the past 6 years too.

I really think we need to wipe the slate clean with our media relations. Draw a line under what's gone before, get them all in and explain the new reality that we expect fair criticism where it is due and praise would be nice when appropriate too. But that any ongoing unjustified and baseless smearing of our club, owners, manager etc will no longer be tolerated.